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[–] Its_Always_420@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You mean retail wage theft?

[–] Smite6645@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's the source on this? Want to explore it and share with a couple people.

[–] Smite6645@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Smite6645@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The article links to a reddit post, which has been deleted - so not sure of the source data.

Here's a recent article with the same points and similar figures, and several source links.

The Guardian

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks to both of you. Damn.

Workers in the US have an estimated $50bn-plus stolen from them every year, according to the Economic Policy Institute, surpassing all robberies, burglaries and motor vehicle thefts combined. The majority of these stolen wages are never recovered by workers.

Not surprised, honestly, but I'd never heard that comparison before.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Greed causes an over abundance of theft. If there is excessive theft, it's because of excessive greed.

When people are struggling and banks are telling retailers there is excessive consumer surplus, and retailers raise prices excessively (greed), theft will inevitably increase.

[–] BaronVonBort@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is nearly everything in the 24 hour news cycle overblown?

[–] kozy138@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Everything but the climate catastrophe were facing ...

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If there is a rise in theft it absolutely isn't having an impact on the record breaking profits being reported. Fuck em.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Their "inflation" rate is faster than the theft rise rate.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The rich are the thieves. <-Period

You can see the blood everywhere. It's even worse because they produce absolutely nothing.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Quick reminder: If you see someone shoplifting, no you didn't.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If I see someone shoplifting necessities, no I didn't. If I see someone shoplifting stupid luxury items, maybe I did, maybe I didn't. Depends on the situation. If it's a dumbass white kid who thinks they're being funny, I sure as fuck did.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

White people can be poor, or motivated by any other force motivating any other ethnicity thief.

[–] stackPeek@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A reminder not to rat on people failing to make ends meet, when the only damage they cause is a slightly lower profit for a corporation whose CEO lives the private jet lifestyle.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

While that might be the only direct result, you're also assuming that A) it's only taking place in major chain stores and B) that the effects won't include price hikes for everyone to compensate for that slight dip in profits.

In reality, corporations have showed us they're never going to just "take the L". If something negatively impacts their bottom line, they'll make up for it by forcing that financial burden onto their customers.

[–] thurstylark@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

And if you see someone shoplift food/formula then no, the absolute fuck you didn't.

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

This only applies to food and basic necessities

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 10 months ago

Schroedinger's retail theft. The answer is both that it's up and that it's overblown.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

We wouldn't have retail theft if the 1% paid their taxes and shared the wealth they stole from everyone else.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Remember; if you see someone shoplifting, no you didn't.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

And a mob? They're unsafe.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 10 points 10 months ago

If you overvalue possessions, People begin to steal.

Tao Te Ching, ch3

this has been known for quite a while

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

It’s just that the supply chain excuse for jacking up prices is going away, so they need another BS excuse.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shouldn’t the free market compensate by hiring more security guards and loss prevention officers?

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah, margins are already thin on retail stores. If you cant profit or even break even, whats the point?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s simply a cost of doing business.

If that business owner can’t figure out how to run their company someone else will.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's exactly what's happening. They close up shop, and someone else can take the location.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah and the new people either adept to the new market or they go bust as well.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago

In my local community I have noticed a strong uptick, talking to store staff. But with wage insecurity and high food prices, “steal or watch your kid starve” isn’t really a decision. And yes, higher ticket items are being stolen, which some people are pointing at like there’s a difference: if the punishment is the same, why not steal the prime rib?

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago
[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

There have been lots of stores that claim to close locations due to looting when it’s the not the case. There is a lot of opportunistic bs happening with stores these days from price gouging to straight up shutting down certain areas for things like unionizing