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I don't understand how Lemmy.world developers managed to surpass both Lemmy.ml and Beehaw.org instances in user activity.

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[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why did I create a Lemmy world account as opposed to beehaw or ml? Because it's the first one I saw. Because it doesn't matter. Because I don't know what ml stands for. Because Lenny world said "general use." Because I didn't have to fill out an application. Because I can still interact with everything else, and again, it doesn't matter.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] grozzle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

the national tld for Mali, but the lemmy ml owners chose it for a "Marxist-Leninist" reference. no kidding.

fun fact - they* also deny genocides committed by (even nominally) communist regimes.

*a lot of them, and even those who don't actively, still stick with the goons who do.

[–] sgtlighttree@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh dear, and I thought it was somehow related to machine learning/AI stuff

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's awesome. I am also a Communist that denies genocides. I guess I better pop on over to lemmy.ml

[–] SojournerWeaver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The real answer here in the comments. Glad I went with world. Though I only did it because it seemed like more people would gravitate toward thag name than the others.

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[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
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[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Lemmy.ml actively asked people to sign up elsewhere. They have a small server and aren't meant to be a general instance.

Lemmy.world is run by people who have one of the larger Mastodon servers, and actively advertises to be open and neutral.

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s also the devs server and they have Lemmy code to write. Can’t be spending time moderating.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

And the other stuff

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

It's also presented as the default on most apps, I believe

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

This is the correct answer. The devs have been saying this for years but new users often weren't aware of this and saw it as the default instance. It's good to see that's changed.

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[–] flamekhan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The developer for RIF told me to come here. I figured that I should trust the person that created the app that I've used for hundreds of hours.

[–] GoosLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Same. Like the parent of a child grown up, RIF has been forced to let us go, but not without influencing our direction lol

[–] Quill0@lemmy.digitalfall.net 1 points 1 year ago

My exact reason. Had the popup show.

Then I created my own instance

[–] Saturn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think most of it has to do with that lemmy.world has better hardware than other instances. The admin Rudd has a lot of experience running federated services as well. So it may be his first rodeo lemmy-wise but not hosting a federated service with a large user-base.

So when a lot of smaller instances started getting overwhelmed and stopping signups, lemmy.world was going strong without the performance issues that other instances might see.

That along with the fact that NSFW content is allowed makes lemmy.world a good alternative for Reddit refugees looking for something stable with a similar set of rules as well.

I myself joined lemmy.ml at first, then beehaw.org when lemmy.ml asked everyone to spread out, and finally found home on lemmy.world because I didn’t really like how downvotes are disabled on beehaw. Not to mention the defederation that beehaw has done recently. Although I can understand and appreciate why they’ve done that.

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[–] shinnoodles@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Regardless of the how, I think it's really cool that the top instance isn't run by the devs. Really shows off the power and appeal of decentralized services.

[–] Flicsmo@rammy.site 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beehaw defederates like it's going out of style, Lemmy.ml doesn't allow criticism of the CCP. Lemmy.world seems much more stable and neutral.

[–] ode@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Alright guys the software has this defederate feature, now you do you but I suggest thinking of it like a break-glass-in-ca--

[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

When I was joining ~a month ago the situation was very different

I tried lemmy.one - had some issues joining
I saw beehaw.org - no downvotes - not my jam
I saw lemmygrad.ml - too political for my tastes
I saw sopuli.xyz - most of local posts and server maintenance posts were in language I don't speak - maybe I can find something fitting me more?
I saw lemmy.world - small but not looking like private, in Europe, so pings should be ok and description seemed fine
I also saw lemmy.ml - seemed like the main instance with the most users - having some understanding of federation from Mastodon migration I decided to spread the load...

And here we are :D

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I signed up on the 12th, after spending a little time comparing with the information I had. My thought process was:

  • I was uncomfortable with the fact that .ml was hosted in Malaysia
  • I thought a larger instance might mean it sticks around longer, but didn't really want to be on the largest (which .ml was)
  • Beehaw seemed otherwise a good fit, but their policies seemed too restrictive
  • .world seemed to have liberal policies, allowed NSFW, was large but not largest, and was hosted in a country that didn't worry me
[–] nosedive@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I was uncomfortable with the fact that .ml was hosted in Malaysia

Not to discount your other points, but lemmy.ml isn't hosted in Malaysia. The .ml TLD is for Mali, a country in Africa. And the site is hosted by OVH, on servers in France.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wow, thanks for that, I really thought .ml was Malaysia. While I had some mild concerns about Malaysia, isn't Mali a shit show as far as human rights? If the servers are in France, that mitigates a lot, but I think I have more concerns about Mali.

[–] ProvokedGamer@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Ya. I’m pretty sure they just took .ml because it was a cheaper domain, but someone’ll have to correct me on that.

[–] CylonBunny@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mali has nothing to do with the instance though. Every country has a top level domain, like .CA or .UK etc. Most of them you have to pay to make a website using the domain. Mali is one country that lets anybody use the ML domain for free. That’s the only reason Lemmy.ml uses it, they have nothing to do with Mali else-wise. (Well there is the bit about ML = Marxist Leninist, but that is a bit of a backronym.)

[–] Dogeek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

For me ML stands for Machine Learning. Mali is sitting on a goldmine of a tld, and could turn into Tuvalu

[–] nosedive@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The country of Mali has little to do with lemmy.ml, apart from an annual transaction worth 10 USD.

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[–] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Probably because its name sounds official and it allows quick registration while others need approval (some never approves you).

Turns out it’s the right choice as the admin seems very active in updates and fixes. Lemmy.world also has a more chill homey vibes. At least that’s what I observed so far.

[–] Myrbolg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As someone signing up for lemmy.world, my reasons were:

  • It sounds official or at least less obscure than ".ml" or "sh.itjust.works"
  • It sounded inclusive (we're all part of the world, so to speak)
  • It was in the list of default instances of Connect for Lemmy

Otherwise, I didn't give much though to which instance to pick.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I joined world before I knew what an instance was. When the RIF app shut down, the developer recommended lemmy.world. I honestly, thought it was a single website.

[–] d_ogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When Lemmy.ml was still on top I initially tried to sign up and was unable to. They could not handle the influx when the first migration occurred during the blackout days.

Lemmy.world on the other hand worked just fine.

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[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mainly because signups were closed on Lemmy.ml and they were not on Lemmy.world.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ya, I applied for beehaw.org and didn't get access after a few days and lemmy.world was open so made an account there. Not much else to it.

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[–] martinbasic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

For me, all lemmy.world communities I subscribed was totally blocked on my beehaw.org account, so I create another account on lemmy.world.

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