this post was submitted on 02 Jan 2024
456 points (97.1% liked)

News

23397 readers
3658 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

As misinformation proliferated on X thanks to verified users, a massive account sharing accurate information hit its Musk-imposed posting limit.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 125 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (28 children)

Twitter did eventually get its shit together and lift the API limits on NERV’s accounts, but people on JP Twitter were furious, and “Elon” in Japanese (イーロン) was trending, with people basically cussing him out for effing up Twitter by limiting NERV and getting rid of the chronological timeline. Folks were also upset at all the “reply zombies” (blue check bot accounts) commenting complete garbage like “nice” and “happy new year” in posts about the earthquake.

As for misinformation, the evening of the quake “人工地震” (manmade earthquake) was trending on Twitter, and NHK news yesterday actually had a segment on last night explaining that no, the quake was not manmade, and that misinformation was being spread on Twitter.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 20 points 10 months ago

Where there Angels emerging from the epicenter of the earthquakes?

load more comments (27 replies)
[–] JustinAngel@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The idea that centralized social media should serve as an emergency broadcasting system is....a bad one. It's only guarantee is that ads are to be served alongside propaganda.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People are too stupid. Think of how we don't teach dolphins tricks, just harness the ones they already know. Can't convince people to download a "save your life" app. Have to just take advantage of what they're willing

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

mass sms to everyone work, and there's even a whole "emergency alert" system built into both Android and ios. it's used all the time in America for things like missing children.

[–] IamtheMorgz@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can turn off emergency alerts though. And you can't get them back after they've been dismissed from your phone.

[–] xycu@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Android retains emergency alerts for the lifetime of the phone, even after they've been viewed/dismissed. They can be seen in the settings app under emergency alert history.

[–] feminalpanda@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

Well I would like a federal app that had Federal, state, and city only feeds. But that would cost money and people hate taxes. Don't need your real name, read only and can get push notifications and see what is going on in the state, city.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Too bad they don't just open their own instance and post there, unlimited. It was always a bad idea to put public safety information channels in private hands.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 86 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

They have their own Mastodon instance and have since 2017. They also have an app. They were telling people to get the app once they realized they were being API limited.

But people in Japan have trusted Twitter for emergency info since the big Tohoku earthquake and still go there for information. Elon wrecked that trust.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Its maddening how hard it is to get people to move socials. Maybe this will be the People's wake up call. It really illustrates the point that most people just want to be where everyone else is.

[–] silverbax@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

This is true, and I also think the 'lack of an algorithm' keeps many people away. While many of us don't want to be force fed a list of 'for you' messages, a lot of people are hoping to get traction for viral tweets and build an audience of people who will get/read/respond to their posts, and that engagement doesn't exist on Mastodon in the same way.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

That is a great point that I personally have never heard. A lot of these people want to be influencers. They want to be paid to have a following and post stuff. Thats not possible here, at least not in the same way.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

That's one thing that I have noticed and appreciated about both Fediverse and Mastodon: they're boring.

And I mean this in the most positive way. Commercialized social media has zeroed in on the 'ol dopamine pump to move content around. This place is full of interesting articles, discussions, and even shitposts, but it all lacks the sheer eyeball-grabbing, visceral pleasure provoking, potential of the bad stuff. It's like going on a diet or kicking a bad habit. Instead of doom-scrolling or looking at piles of cat memes all day, you just kind of get "full" and go do something more productive with your time. It's fantastic.

But that's also at odds with "viral" content. It seems that, for now at least, thought provoking, genuinely interesting, and well produced content gets the most traction. Call me regressive, but I see this as a feature and it's no wonder that folks will keep away because of it.

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of these people are utterly hopeless. I went into a really bad argument with a fellow creator for daring to suggest them to at least try the fediverse, even after Twitter nazis harassed them.

One another issue is the paid blue checkmark's effect on making one invest even more into the platform, which is needed to avoid your reach being completely borked.

Meamwhile I completely discontinued my engine's own account there in favor of a Mastodon account ( @PixelPerfectEngine ), and I only visit Twitter for the few creators that didn't make the jump.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm mostly shocked they've had their own instance sinxe 2017. You aren't goinf to get people who are on socials to make money to move here until it reaches a certain saturation point. Even then, unless theres a way to monetize the views that whole influencer culture won't come here. Maybe thats a good thing, I dont want monetization here.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Glad to hear they've taken the right steps. Hopefully it's still running when/if they can get the people to shift over.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A public utility shouldn’t depend on a for-profit platform

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 26 points 10 months ago

I think the problem is people use Twitter as a public utility instead of there actually being a public utility. I can only speak to the US but I think all we've got is mass notifications for emergencies.

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Individual countries should start seizing twitters servers and running their own local version that anyone in the world can participate in.

This way they can insure mongrel trash like musk can't interfere with emergency notices.

[–] Anarch157a@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No need to seize anything. Deploy a Government Mastodon instance and run a PSA informing the public that the Mastodon is the official channel for emergency communications.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Germanys government has a own mastodon instance up and running. And while different institutions moved away from Twitter over there, citizen do not follow because "there is nobody using mastodon I know" or "mastodon is too complicated"

[–] Anarch157a@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

People don't need to use it as their micro-blogging platform, they just need to know that a site like govern.xy is the authoritative source of alerts. Mastodon's default timeline for non-logged visitors is simple enough for visitors to understand and get the information they need.

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 10 months ago

I agree with your solution wholeheartedly.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago

I'd be laughing if I wasn't horrified.

load more comments
view more: next ›