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My old person trait is that I think 'ghosting' is completely unacceptable and you owe the other person a face-to-face conversation.

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[–] doleo@lemmy.one 127 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think that a basic lifestyle should be affordable for a basic person

[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Found the left-wing extremist! /s

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[–] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

i’m gonna go one further:

i think everybody should be allowed to live a decent enough life, whether they can work or not.

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll go even further and say that meeting the needs of a population is the only point of having a society at all.

that almost sounds like… anticapitalist propaganda! Can’t have that! Back to your cubicle, worker #33458!

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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 87 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

My old person trait is that none of the things mentioned in the linked image happened on accident.

They happened because capitalism doesn't give a fuck about anything except bleeding as much money as conceivably possible out of each and every human.

  1. Apps allow companies to suck more data out of your device than a website, allowing them to sell more of your data and... make more money.

  2. Video games needing access to the internet is simply Digital Rights Management and a way to prevent piracy and... make more money. Remember, most companies view something pirated as a "lost sale," not that you would have never purchased it to begin with. As Gabe Newell once said:

“We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,” he said. “If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable."

  1. This one speaks for itself. Being able to be in control of the products you buy is freedom. Having products controlled remotely by a corporation is giving them carte blanche to make more money off of you.

  2. Removing accessible customer service means more people will just give up on trying to get their problem solved, effectively allowing the company to steal from people and... shocker... make more money.


I agree, in theory, in respect to ghosting, but we live in a society that teaches us to be isolated, and doesn't teach interpersonal skills unless the interpersonal skill is "Fuck you, got mine." (which is, not surprisingly, a thing about making more money.)

In other words, these aren't old people opinions. These are "I'm not gonna let capitalism absolutely fuck me endlessly" opinions.

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[–] nik282000@lemmy.ml 78 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I think cars should not be dependent on a touch screen for ANY of it's functions (or really have one at all). They are more difficult to use than tactile buttons, distracting, and do not receive long term support from the OEM.

What do you do with a 10 year old car that runs but the touch screen nuked due to age, firmware bugs or mechanical damage? Ford isn't going to be selling replacement units 10 years later and I have yet to see an 'infotainment' system that has aftermarket replacement considerations.

[–] Indie@lemmy.fmhy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Totally agree with this one.

I drive an old 06 and I much prefer using the the physical buttons to adjust things like music, volume, air settings. Even prefer using it to back up and having to use my mirrors and look back.

My '18 vehicle is all touch screen, cameras,etc. While the a/c functions better and I don't feel like my fillings are going to fall out from all the rattles and bumps, I find there is a real disconnect. I am even asked by others why I lean over and look at the back window when reversing.

I work in tech and I don't trust tech.

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[–] lazyplayboy@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My old person trait is that instructions do not need to be videos.

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[–] smoll_pp_operator@vlemmy.net 67 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I prefer written guides to video guides.

Video has some clear advantages when showing off a 3D space and otherwise, but I dislike pausing them over and over. Especially if my hands are covered in oil and grease, a paper version is superior to a screen.

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[–] DivineJustice@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I refuse to use subscription software. If I can't buy it outright, I either use an alternative or take to seas.

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[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 58 points 1 year ago (13 children)

My old person trait is that when I purchase a printer, I should be able to use whatever is the cheapest compatible ink without the printer treating me like I'm smuggling unicorn blood out of Narnia

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[–] altoverse@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

my old person trait is that you should keep your internet identity completely separate from your real one

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[–] relevant_user_name@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My old person trait is I shouldn't have to scan a QR code for the menu at a sit-down where I'm dropping $100 on entrées. Give me a dang physical copy of the menu!

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I hate all websites that move things around as they load. If I see a button, that button should stay where it is when I try to click it.

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[–] Calabast@vlemmy.net 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

In regards to OP's comment about ghosting, I just want to ask, are you a man? Because women all-too-often have to deal with men who can't take no for an answer, and some of those men go from mad to violent very quickly. You might say "well, no man should act that way, they should be able to hear 'I don't want to see you anymore' and just accept it and move on" but the fact is they are not all able to do that. So should women do the respectful thing and stop ghosting, even though some of them definitely WILL end up being yelled at/attacked/killed?

(I know my example doesn't cover all situations involving ghosting, like for instance if the ghoster is a man. If you want to modify your claim to be 'ghosting is unacceptable, except in cases where having a face-to-face conversation could put someone in danger' then I guess I'd agree with that statement. It's just that it's really hard to know which person will be dangerous when they are turned down.)

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[–] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.one 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

I don't have notification enabled on most of my apps. I will check on them when I want, but I hate seeing or hearing notifications because they are distracting me. If something is urgent, call me, otherwise it can wait.

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[–] gk99@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My old person trait is dislike of video-form social media. I consider blaring my phone speakers at max volume disrespectful to those in my surroundings and generally annoying.

Hence why my social media of choice was reddit and is now lemmy+kbin. It's mostly text posts and images.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 46 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Owning physical media > "owning" digital media.

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[–] kinther@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

My old person trait is I hate short-form videos e.g. Instagram reels and TikTok videos. The back and forth boomer vs millenial vs gen z videos remind me of someone who is talking to themself with different personalities.

[–] Senuf@beehaw.org 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My old person traits are most of all posted here because I am an old person.

But I'll add that my old person traits is that I think a living wage should support... er... living, including a place to live, food to eat, paying for services, buying clothes, getting decent public health and education, and even have spare money for your free time (hobbies, eat out, theatre, concerts, etc.).

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[–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like having a keyboard and mouse. Doing things on a smartphone is a last resort.

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[–] RealNooshie@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

I prefer landscape videos over vertical videos. I still remember when vertical videos were clowned on so hard that there were songs written about it. Now it's how everyone consumes their content!

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

As someone who works in a call center, screw that last person on here. So sorry you hate the automated system. Sorry you had to wait on hold. They can't keep enough of us employed because y'all are fucking mean and no one wants to be abused for $15/hr.

Er, I mean, Thank you for calling, sorry about your wait!

[–] evilgiraffe666@lemmy.one 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Don't you think you could both be victims? Waiting for ages listening to a 13 second loop of music interspersed with "your call is important to us" might make people a bit more angry?

You should be mad at the people who gain financially from it, and could make it better for you and the customers, but might have to skip that third yacht for little Timmy.

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[–] confluence@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (18 children)

My old person trait is thinking a family should be able to live in a house if one member has a stable job (maybe two people if both are at minimum wage).

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[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For the love of god stop with the QR code menus. I don’t want to have to scroll up and down a million times to figure out my order.

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (12 children)

My old person trait is that I want video to be horizontal.

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[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my old person trait is remembering that it didn't use to be this hot in the summer where I live.

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[–] Adonnus@beehaw.org 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The idea of "keep it simple, stupid" is lost. Everything, from beauracracy to apps to games to social interactions, is mired in unnecessary complexity that makes it difficult for everyone to keep up. I want a simple website with information that I need (thank you Wikipedia for upholding this). I want an airline loyalty membership without insane fine-print rules. I want to tip services based on service provided and not mess around a tablet's interface. I want dental insurance where I'm not leaving the office with a bill that's almost half my rent becuase they did something my insurance said in fine-print wouldn't cover. Maybe these aren't "old person" traits and I'm just here venting. But damn if I don't miss when certain things were simpler.

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[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

My old person trait is that I'm unreasonably annoyed by people who don't write in full, correct, complete sentences, punctuation and grammar included.

Something interesting I've found is that people use 'lol' to show disinterest or mock the person they're replying to, not to show amusement. And that's not the kind of person I really want to engage with.

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[–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My fucking back hurts. Knee joints as well. And I think socializing is overrated.

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[–] richyawyingtmv@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I have a few. And I'm not even that old (mid thirties)

  • People who talk on phone calls using airpods or similar look ridiculous in public, like they're utter lunatics talking to themselves or their imaginary friend.

  • people who view life through their mobile phones are unfortunate and sad. Like...why pay money to go see a gig if you're going to view it through your phone screen? I went to a wedding last week and I was one of the very few who was actually watching the procession with my own eyes rather through a camera app.

  • Not being on social media should be an accepted norm, not a fucking exception. This is an issue when dating, unbelievably.

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[–] Brocon@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

When I buy an aplliance or something simple like a speaker I don't want to have to connect it to the web to work properly. I want to just plug it in and use the function I bought it for.

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[–] mawkler@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (16 children)

These aren't "old person traits". It's common sense.

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[–] dottedgreenline@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An urge to destroy fascism.

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[–] Mr_Grumpy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My old person trait is that I think I should be able to have anything I purchased repaired/serviced by whomever I wish, with whatever parts they deem acceptable.

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[–] kenbw2@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

My old person trait is that most of these sound like very recent problems

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I DO NOT owe you a text back. If I'm not physically w you, I owe you very little in terms of interaction. I come home, throw my phone under the bed, and ignore till morning, and I prob won't answer you then either. It's not personal...usually.

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[–] neardeaf@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My old person trait is only tipping if someone is actually providing a service for me. I don’t tip at all if I’m lifting a finger for anything.

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[–] HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I want a proper headphone jack on my phone! Bluetooth can be convenient, but I prefer wired headphones.

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[–] potterman28wxcv@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree that you owe a face to face conversation. No one should forced to go meet someone if they don't feel like it.

In the context of dating, if you get ghosted, consider that the person is not interested in you after all - and just move on. No big deal.

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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

My actual old people trait is that there should be two spaces after a period. I will die on this stupid fucking hill. Even though computers automatically change it to one space. Like here.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My old person trait is thinking that the internet shouldn't just be a place to sell products.

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[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Likely an outdated one, or one that's already been given a number of times, but – Physical Books.

I'm not entirely 'anti' e-reader, the benefits are obvious. I'm just VERY pro physical book.

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[–] lobelia581@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

my old person trait is thinking that all of the above are extremely reasonable expectations and it's a sad world we live in where most of those aren't the case anymore

[–] MrPeach4tlanta@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The third one is my old person trait. Also, grumpiness, and wanting the right to repair my own devices.

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