this post was submitted on 20 Aug 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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ALLIES

!abolition@slrpnk.net

!acab@lemmygrad.ml

r/ACAB

r/BadCopNoDonut/

Randy Balko

The Civil Rights Lawyer

The Honest Courtesan

Identity Project

MirandaWarning.org

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

Black Lives Matter

Campaign Zero

Innocence Project

The Marshall Project

Movement Law Lab

NAACP

National Police Accountability Project

Say Their Names

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[–] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's just a bunch of decoded databases from an image of a device, with specialized tools to sort through and relate them to each other. Combine it with OSINT stuff, existing criminal records, evidence and ongoing investigations. Now you can map out wwwwwh with relative certainty.

I doubt the courts could force them to divulge trade secrets as to how, specifically, the tech behind the evidence gathering works. The investigator just has to ensure chain of custody remains intact.

For the record, I'm not saying it's good, but the concept is there and there are many of digital forensics companies doing exactly this. It's literally hacking, but for The Man. And there's a lot of money behind it

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This post should be deleted. Its just that we might be liable from discussing, sharing and reading about tools like this. Especially if the article hints that these tools could end up in regular peoples hands. This isn't what the internet was built for. Please remove before someone gets in trouble. Let's keep conversations strictly about brands and how they fill us with joy

[–] CaptainAlchemy@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bro what? How is anyone liable on Lemmy? If anyone is liable it's the journalist writing the article.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CaptainAlchemy@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I need a /s bro this timeline

[–] Sho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, since when is reading about something making u liable? Oh wait I forgot what timeline we are in...

[–] CaptainAlchemy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the initial comment is satire but let's imagine it's real and reading something like this can get you in trouble. When do you stop caring? When does the threat of getting put behind bars or a huge fine become meaningless? Even if it's just for criminals now, the government is creating a weapon that can be used against anyone.

[–] Sho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Right?! Scary times...