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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 158 points 10 months ago (7 children)

If I didn't have ethics, I could con so many religious people...

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 85 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think about this sometimes I could go to school and build a career for myself, or I could make way twice the money in half the time doing shit like this.

Sometimes I hate that I have a sense of guilt. Life would be so much easier if I were a psychopath

[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But psychopaths never feel love

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They either completely lack or struggle with recognizing emotional empathy.

[–] stoneparchment@possumpat.io 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that's true? They have a dysfunctional guilt/shame system but they still have other feelings, right?

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If it makes you feel any better, it's probably hard to figure out when to get out. You'll always feel like you can do just one more because the last one worked out so well, but each time you cash in, more people will see the truth and might want in on it until you find yourself in a situation where you can't stop even if you wanted to because then the others who you are propping up will turn on you.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

So what if they turn on you? Once you're rich just admit it's a scam and walk away. The believers will continue on.

Jehovah's Witnesses predicted the end of the world in 1914. When that didn't happen they lost members but came back quickly enough. Then they predicted it for 1975. Same thing happened, and now they have more members than ever.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago

There were likely some Mormons and definitely some fellow Freemasons in the angry mob that killed Joseph Smith. He was in way too deep to just walk away, even if his brand of narcissism would have allowed him to contemplate that.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is completely ethical to remove the funding power from those who would cause others to suffer.

Just sayin, you have options.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, but you're not really conning the higher-ups, you're conning the grannies who are going to church and giving away their social security money. And they really don't deserve to be conned even if it would be easy to con them.

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[–] Blackout@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago

If that is unethical then all of religion is unethical hey wait a second...

[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I long ago came to the conclusion that a slice of the American Dream is still out there to be had, as long as you don't mind cutting it out of a bunch of suckers and rubes. Alas, my petty sense of morality is stopping me from joining the ranks of the wealthy elite, but at least I can sleep at night knowing my lifestyle isn't directly financed by the misery of people I made a conscious choice to hurt.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

That's almost universally true at the multimillionaire and above level unless you inherited it all. You don't get that rich without stepping on everyone you can to get there.

Elon Musk has ruined a ridiculous number of people on his way to the top and he continues to do it.

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I knew a kid who'd go door to door in neighborhoods requesting donations for the poor.

In his mind he was being honest because he was "the poor"

[–] undercrust@lemmy.ca 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, this was the pre-existing model for GoFundMe. That kid could've been a millionaire if he dreamed bigger.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

can i start a gofundme just asking for money for no reason and see if anyone gives it to me

[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Absolutely.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Reminds me of the Human Fund and its slogan "money for people".

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Ah the classic Empty Pocket Society

[–] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 70 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So you accidentally learned the greatest lesson the church has to offer. Salvation for a profit.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also, religious fanatics are really gullible

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[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Honestly. I think that's what many of the nutjob protestors and "commentators" do. Why work a real job when you can be paid by suckers to jetset around the country/world spouting controversial views.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

That's basically what Fred Phelps and crew did.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Since it’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter heaven, relieving said rich man of their excess wealth is actually a kindness. Therefore this is an ethical life pro tip.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

While everyone's telling their stories. In middle school. My friend had a game shark book with game shark codes and he would write them all out and then sell them to kids that didn't have a game shark.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Game shark, my god you brought me back. Shit, now you got me thinking about Game Genie too.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Codebreaker for PS2 was my daily use cheat disc back then lol

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

I did something similar when I was like 11. Went on a "canned food drive" around the neighborhood because it was summer and I was hungry.

To be fair, my family was poor and used services that actual drives would benefit, so I just cut out the middle man.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Full circle since I Rember reading that blink got started telling schools they wanted to play concerts in gymnasiums to spread a positive Christian message.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Is there actually any way literal grown adults fell for this

[–] MySwellMojo@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why are their pastors driving lambos

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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 9 months ago

Have you ever talked with fundamentalist? It's not only plausible, but those adults have probably done the same thing while actually being serious about the preaching part in the concert

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

Yes.

Religious fanatics are that gullible, they do after all believe in really shittily written fairytales as if they're real.

[–] QTpi@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes! I went to an evangelical church run private school. They had the brilliant idea to send good "strong Christian" students to raves and parties to narc on their classmates that attended said raves and parties. I wish I was making that up.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Depends on the town. Some of the ones in the Bible Belt? Absolutely possible. In others it's completely possible they knew the kids were lying and decided it was fun to play along and get them to a concert.

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[–] iesou@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When I needed a job I went to church and asked them to pay that a job would come my way. Had 3 offers before I left

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[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

ChaoticGood

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Image Transcription: Twitter Post


M. Lockwood Porter, @mlockwoodporter

My best friend and I wanted to go to a Blink 182 concert in high school but couldn't afford tickets, so we told everyone in our extremely Baptist Oklahoma town that God called us to spread the gospel at an evil secular concert but we needed donations to get in. We turned a profit

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