TIL he was on the board.
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Wait, the guy who claimed to be for the environment was on the board of a company that contributes unnecessary e-waste by not allowing their hardware to last its rightful lifespan?? Wish I could say I was shocked...
You say that, meanwhile Apple is the benchmark in providing software updates and support for their devices. Just a few years ago, Android manufacturers were not even providing 2 years of updates.
Both are bad, Apple needs to stop the parts locking (like not being able to use all the features on a replaced screen without their approval), and Android companies have to be better about giving support for their phones.
Keep both accountable, let's leave the console wars bs in 2008.
I agree, and I am not here trying to start some Apple vs Android war. My comparison was just to give some perspective on the competition.
The thing is, there is no one monolithic competition called "Android", it's a host of vendors and manufacturers that have agreed on a common operating system. You will see a great amount of variation between all the different Android OEMs, variation that also affects software support.
We need a third option.
yeah, that green company that artificially impedes reusing parts by firmware.
the very same company that sells premium laptops with not upgradeable 8 GB of RAM. The very same company which sells laptops in which even the SSD is soldered, so when it dies or when it is full (the base model is 256 GB and they make you pay a big premium for more) you have to replace the whole thing.
Is 8GB RAM laptop even relevant to this discussion? You seem to be going off on the “Apple doesn’t provide enough RAM with their base models” rant which is a completely different discussion. Regarding soldering the SSD, many manufacturers do it and it’s certainly not good practice for the environment.
I never said Apple is the greenest company in existence but they are also not the worst like the original company implied and they are certainly not forcing early retirement of their products. On the contrary they are doing the opposite by providing software support even 5-6 years after purchase.
8GB laptops are pretty much ewaste outside of Chromebooks. That's why it's relevant to the "green" discussion
E: lol the person below made a whiny comment essentially saying Apple has magic RAM and then blocked me so I can't reply. Am I back on Reddit or something?
no, not that many companies solder the SSD. The RAM? yeah, it's widespread now. But you can still find laptops with upgradeable RAM. The SSD has been replaceable in most laptops.
And yes, the 8GB RAM is very relevant to the discussion, because for the same price every other manufacturer is offering at the very least 16GB, in most cases 32GB and in some 64GB.
8GB macbooks will be rendered obsolete way sooner than 16GB laptops. That's ewaste for you.
they are also not the worst
I'd argue that they are very close to that title, given their marketshare.
Sure, you have years of software support. Great. Did the hardware survive that long? Do you need any repair? Because they won't allow third party spare parts so it would be a shame if you needed one.
Also, the software support desktop, Linux has not a limited amount of years of support, it could revive perfectly good hardware that Apple doesn't support anymore and they deliberately make it difficult to install.
Linux mint that handles 4GB pretty well. But the majority will toss old stuff away when Windows gets painful to use.
Linux Mint does yeah. Browsers? Not for long. Give it a few years and browsers might require 16GB of RAM to run.
Yes but the android phone will still work fine for at least the next decade and all apps on the play store will still work on that phone for the next decade.
On apple, if you never update your phone, eventually you won't be able to update or install apps because they require a version on iOS you're not on. We don't have this problem on android. Most android apps can run on Android 6 and up.
We are now on Android 14. 6 was a very long time ago.....
My 2013 MacBook Pro is running Linux and kicking ass. So, although they dropped os upgrades after 7 years, I think it says a lot about their desktops. The same cannot be said with their iOS devices, as I have an iPod Touch V1 that could be put to good use if only I could run Ubuntu touch.
Literally any PC made in the last decade will run Linux like a champ. It has nothing to do with it being made by Apple
That is specifically not true of Apple. They don't make drivers for Linux, and often change components which means there are several Apple devices that are really hard to run Linux on. The touchbar MacBooks are a nightmare for Linux, and the ARM Macs are slowly getting support, but it is sub par last I looked.
I’m referring to the quality of their hardware
Hardware is the same across the board. PC's have equally good hardware.. Literally only the aluminium body is still unique to apple but the internal components are the same as any other OEM.
I work in IT, so I've seen alot of hardware from many OEMs including Apple.
I've had 15+ year old PCs running XP on the same box and still being used daily to run a CNC machine... They can't be replaced because the software was never updated by the developer to run on anything else. But the hardware is rock solid.
AI Gore? AI generated gore? How did apple have access to this technology for 21 years? And why would they generate gore? Just why?
Al Gore. That is, A L G O R E
It was always there, but we've long ignored the warnings. It invented the Internet, which we took for granted. It wasn't until Gore seeped through a series of tubes that we realized, but by then it was too late.
It had already taken over the windmills.
Really cant you distinguish AI and Al?
They look identical in most fonts, which is a huge problem for my open source project to simulate the former Vice President. It's called: OpenAl.
Weird AI
I can only imagine the horrors AI Gore can generate.
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Maybe he failed to meet expectations?
It’s to my understanding that these shareholders expect constant growth to continue to increase the returns on their investment.
“Your customers still trust you with their data and you haven’t even started selling it yet.”
-shareholders, probably
not despised, but i think the Apple Watch injunction really hurt them because it was around the holiday season. That, and the general consumer pretty much knew there wasn't anything new with the new iPhone that warranted an upgrade. Even my rich, boomer dad said he didn't see why it would be worth it to upgrade and he always gets the newest models.
If they released one every 3 or 4 years, I’d buy them all, but they’re just such small bumps in tech that I end up just sticking to what I’ve got. I bought the 15 and did that Apple courier thing where they bring it to you like door dash. It was Black Friday and $9, so it seemed like a deal. The driver stole it. So, that rubbed me wrong and I’m gonna wait for the 16.
It would be nice if the US government also had a rule prohibiting those 75 and older from running in elections.
I disagree. Ageism is morally wrong. (We should also remove the age floor from positions.)
That being said, an independently operated competency test for candidacy sure seems reasonable.
We definitely should have a cap and floor on important governmental positions regardless of anything to do with ageism. Objectively speaking, the body changes significantly as we age, and neither young people with their underdeveloped decision making centers, nor old people with reduced overall function and greatly reduced ability to learn and apply new concepts should be making important political decisions and be responsible for the well being of a nation.
I dont want to comment on one opinion over the other, just wondering how a system like this would work given the fact that the line where age typically takes a serious detrimental toll is both highly varied between individuals and also moving farther back (in theory at least) as medical technology and understanding progresses.
And all those complaints are not really about age, but mental capability. So we should measure what really counts instead of age.
Easier said than done. Mental capability and age, after a certain point, can’t be separated. Good luck holding high level elected officials accountable by fairly testing cognitive function on a regular basis.
Who’s going to decide “what really counts?” Who’s going to draw out fair guidelines that won’t be vulnerable to political agendas? Who’s going to test officials and who/what organization will be paying them? Who’s going to enforce it? A person or group with the ability to oust a sitting president based on private medical information? That’s a lot of power to also be exploited for personal gain.
If you can’t answer these questions then it wouldn’t work. In an idea world I’d agree with you, but a blanket age cap is the most fair, realistic solution for everyone.
I support an age ceiling and floor, but the real reason we’re dealing with this reality is people are currently willing to vote for visibly senile people instead of voting for younger candidates. We wouldn’t even need an age cap if people realized voting for 80 year olds isn’t a good idea.
Ageism exists because people above a certain age cannot keep up to the demands of the job. I am sure a lot of folk disagree here... but you would agree that old people's brains aren't as fast as young people and even old people experience can only hinder them in a world thats all but changed completely.
This test you speak of is how mostly it works now, but only inverted: reject the vast majority of old people... and only hire the outliers.