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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 96 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Less funny when you realize it's mostly banks, government agencies, and militaries still using it.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I'd say more likely it's labs, hospitals, and other scientific stuff where you have to deal with old instruments cause lack of money. I'm fairly certain the military uses some other OS, I believe NATO uses Solaris for example.

[–] minyakcurry@monyet.cc 26 points 10 months ago

Also that machine only works under very specific circumstances, so you fear changing anything in case your entire protocol breaks and you have to start from scratch.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Windows for Submarines"

It's XP for Vanguard subs. I really hope none of them provide any telemetry for these stats though.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

doubt they're connected to the internet. In fact I'd wager 99% of shit running windows XP is not connected to the internet (and shouldn't be)

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

As a former banker I can tell you that most ATMs run Windows NT 4.0.

However since the network is completely clamped down and the OS boots via network as well (no hard drives in ATMs), they are pretty secure.

I've also indeed seen some Windows XP terminals in use just lately - one in fact in a hospital my current company collaborates with - but it's isolated and used to run some sequencer that was never ported to a 64 bit architecture, and apparently doesn't run in compatibility mode either.

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[–] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And hospitals. Don't forget those.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Deiv@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I highly doubt it. I work for a large bank, and it's all W10/11 due to the need for continuous security patches/currency updates. Large banks don't mess around with EOL software that has a risk of vulnerabilities

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[–] v81@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

And medical. Suppliers if CT, MRI and X-Ray gear are notorious for wanting to sell new gear and not providing software updates to work on new operating systems.

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[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago (21 children)

I guinely hate windows as a product. But man XP was a banger for it's time

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

As usual I think that sentiment was retroactive, certainly once Vista came out. At launch, people hated the Fisher-Price look of the Luna default UI. Like, a lot. The switch to the NT based kernel for the home version of Windows also caused a shitton of people's hardware and peripherals not to work anymore because they needed new drivers and the manufacturers of said gadgets -- if they were still in business -- could not be arsed. Some of this could be alleviated by bullying that hardware's Windows 2000 drivers into working with XP. Some of it could not.

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[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Newest versions of windows 11 make it incredibly hard to find the screen that shows all your network adapters. It is now easier to use device manager to disable and reenable an adapter.

How do I know? Because all the shit tier screens and tools that offer to help you with a network issue didn't work. ONLY reenabling the NIC did.

Had to do it on my whole network

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Learn the ways of the run prompt: ncpa.cpl launches you right to the classic network adapter control panel screen. I have to get in there so often that I've taught myself plenty of those little shortcuts because MS can't leave shit where it was.

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[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

ipconfig /release

ipconfig /renew

In cmd stop working?

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[–] skizzles@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Why don't you just use control panel?

I never use the windows settings menu unless I absolutely have to because, like you insinuated, it's really not that great.

Control panel on the other hand is still there and will get you exactly where you need much quicker.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

i find the best solution to this problem is to install linux

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[–] debil@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Monty Python's Flying Circus!

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[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (11 children)

To be fair, whomever decided to use an apostrophe to indicate possession AND abbreviation clearly didn’t think through all the possible conflicts before going ahead and making it a thing. Should have made a separate symbol for one of them.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Windows XP outliving two of it is successors.

[–] CodyCannoli@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (3 children)

A lot of public infrastructure in the US (powerplants, waste management, etc.) runs off XP or older.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i have several clients with xp systems (or even older), still, mostly for CNC applications, bulk trailer and tanker loaders, and similar. i keep recommending upgrading the systems, they keep balking at the high prices from their vendors.

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[–] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

When I was working security for a hospital they wanted to send imagery from an MRI (or maybe CAT, I forget) upstairs to be interpreted without allowing any network traffic to be able to reach the host machine because it was running XP. I asked why, and they told me that in order to replace it the vendor was requiring a $7 million replacement of the whole MRI.

[–] Takios@feddit.de 14 points 10 months ago

That should be illegal and the vendor held accountable for security incidents happening because of this.

I've worked in hospitals that still run DOS based programs for certain things. It's madness.

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[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago (5 children)

What worries me more is what eldritch horrors await us in other versions

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Please watch this advertising video that is relevant to what you were discussing with your wife in the other room this morning before your browser can be launched."

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[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Played the heckin' heck out of Lionhead Studios' Black & White on XP. Good Times.

[–] Hudomi@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Black & White games were legendary. I Wish there were more games of its kind.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

I don't even know why people use Windows 10 (or 11) other than momentum.

I haven't used Windows for years, but my daughter's new online school required either a Windows 10/11 computer or a Mac and we can't afford even a new decent Windows notebook, let alone a Mac, so we ended up getting a refurbished Thinkpad running Windows 10 from NewEgg.

Windows 10. Is. Annoying. As. Fuck.

We are constantly getting interrupted by unnecessary popups (or were until I took the time to disable everything I could think of, which was a pain in the ass).

After running updates, it made me go through a bunch of screens turning down paying for things. Twice. And those popups still asked me about paying for things. Motherfucker, I already paid $300 for the computer, I'm not paying you shit.

And wow is stuff counterintuitive in how to do it compared to either any Linux GUI I've tried or Mac OS. Just trying to figure out how to get to a File menu is baffling half the time.

I don't blame anyone for using XP over that shit. Let alone Linux or even a Mac.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don’t even know why people use Windows 10 (or 11) other than momentum.

Security updates. That's it, that's the only reason I recommend anyone unwilling or unable to switch operating systems all together to move to Windows 10.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just wait until they start putting ads in the file menu and make you sit through a 30 second commercial every time you want to open an application unless you join windows premium + subscription only 15$ a month

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Drink verification can to continue your Windows™ experience

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's tons of legacy shit still running XP and there probably will be for at least another decade.

[–] Aggravationstation@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Yea I think most ATMs work on XP.

[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I have a copy, I just need to find an old-ass pc to install it on.

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[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 11 points 10 months ago (9 children)

$20 says there's at least one person out there still running Win3.1 daily.

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

these are mostly enterprise systems right? like terminals/pos stuff where the system is responsible for just running the ui?

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