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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] jotaemei@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hi. I’m new to Sneer Club. Only realized what the Reddit community was about a few days ago. I never visited the Less Wrong site back in its era of high activity. I had a friend who told me about it, the Harry Potter fanfic, and I guess the Sequences, but it all seemed like a massively low return on time investment, and the self-important mission to save humanity from Unfriendly AI also sounded kooky and like some kind of self-perpetuating bullshit.

(Aside: As for Slate Star Codex, I probably never read a single piece all the way through. The guy just meanders incessantly, and to this day, I’m amazed any readers could keep doing that to themselves.)

This all brings me some sadness, as I deeply value critical thinking and rationalism (Who tells themselves that they don’t?), and as annoying as that community was, and their diaspora in the effective altruist milieu is today, given that the world seems to be ever more irrational, rationalism-minded people and movements, IMO, are dearly needed.

Lately though I’ve been fascinated by how for all the skills that community worked to instill itself with, it didn’t wind up insulating itself from imploding into its own irrationalism.

Anyway, thanks for the opportunity to join this community and to all the people that put it together and maintain it.

Yudkowsky is Dr. Lucas Elliot from the 1990s MTV cartoon The Head.

[–] mii@awful.systems 3 points 6 months ago

Hi, I'm Mii (u/0xMii on Reddit), software dev and hobby artist. I was a lurker on old SneerClub and TechTakes and only recently found out they moved here. Glad to have it back, because with the current AI hype, the TESCREAL clowns creep in everywhere and I'm trying to maintain my sanity.

They almost got me and pulled me into their cult a few years back, but I luckily got out before it was too late.

Oh hey, did I ever actually post here? No? Whoops.

I blame the ghosts in between the machines.

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've been meaning to ask if Liv Boeree is on the radar. I'd seen her stuff recommended on YT and it seemed like innocuous sciencey stuff but instantly got the rationalist vibe. Then saw she was on Lex Fridman's podcast. Looked into her a bit (wikipedia) and she is indeed in the effective altruism world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liv_Boeree

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] gerikson@awful.systems 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

AI Safety: [...] Not woke. Spans across political spectrum.

yeah right

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hi everyone. I’m Steve and I am hoping for a judgment-free sneer club

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh no, there's going to be a ton of judgement, possibly up to and including lightning bolts

[–] self@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago

don’t forget eternal, acausal torture

[–] AcausalRobotGod@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago

I am, as it were, calling from the future. Acausally.

[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hi, and thanks for making this! Glad to continue sneering.

P.S. "TREACLES" is pretty clever, Emile Torres and Timnit Gebru should have gone with that instead of keeping it in chronological order.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago

i know right? IT WAS RIGHT THERE

[–] maol@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

hello! \o_

I was an infrequent commenter at the old place (u/yawaster), usually when I got really annoyed about something TESCREAL related. I will probably also be an infrequent commenter here but I still need an occasional outlet for my sneer. Fair play for actually setting up an escape raft from Reddit rather than slinking back, the future of the useable/bearable web depends on people putting their money where their mouth is.

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 1 points 7 months ago

Hello! I'm Eric and I've been sneering for a year. Love, love, love this community because reading some of the misanthropic techno fash b.s. rat cult beliefs was making me big mad & big sad, but injecting sneers directly into my veins has inoculated me :)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hello, my name is David Gerard and I caused the downfall of Twitter and hence Reddit

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I’m 4grams, and I appreciate it.

[–] TerribleMachines@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hello, lurker from ye olde sneerclubbe. So glad to see this place continue! Huge source of comfort when I broke with the rat community after realising how crazy cultish they are—thanks sneeple ✨️

[–] self@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago

welcome back!

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hi, I'm Blake, physicist and procrastinator.

[–] Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the side bar here supposed to mean, like at all?

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go read it. I have no idea what any of it means. I know what treacle means in the context of desserts, but not as a group of people. NSFW is obviously being changed to mean something specific, but no context is given for the change. The whole side bar is like one inside joke that doesn't make sense to anyone visiting, but you've got a post here welcoming new to say hi with no explanation as to what the community us about. Visitors are given no context, and I can't tell what any of the posts have to do with each other.

So, I guess, I meant exactly what I asked the first time.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

here's a sparse intro and that's probably the extent of our customer service, you can pick up the rest by clicking links

i'm vaguely curious as to how you decided to come to someone else's server and demand they explain themselves to you, is this a thing you do a lot, but only vaguely

[–] Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I sort by new to look for new communities that are active while lemmy grows. The purpose of the side bar is to let visitors, who potentially would want to engage with your community, what you're about. Yours doesnt make any sense and you don't seem to want anyone to understand so fuck you and I'll just block your community. You must not have anything worth participating with is that's how you engaged with new people.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago

The feeling's mutual, to be clear. Your refund is enclosed.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah federation, when random drive-bys can comment telling you're doing it wrong...

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago

it's everything we hoped for. no wait, not "hoped".

[–] Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or could just yell you what an unwelcoming community you've built. You guys belong back on reddit

Lmao why did you invite people in here to vote on your comments

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The purpose of the sidebar is what now

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago

Growth hacking dontchaknow

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 0 points 1 year ago

hello; i'm here to sneer and complain. i have many hobbies that i don't pursue and a mastodon.

[–] two_kittens@awful.systems 0 points 1 year ago

Hello. I've been a lurker in SneerClub for a year or so.

I've never been either a Yudkowsky-style rationalist or worked in the IT industry, but my whole life has been weirdly parallel to this sort of thing. And now that world has nurtured some of the worst A-list villainy of our times.

Yays. I'm still trying to work out precisely how deep the rot goes.

Favourite personal hate sinks include Scott Alexander, Richard Hanania, Robin Hanson, Steven Pinker, Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin, and the thing that bought Twitter. I have a bad feeling these people are building an intellectual infrastructure for fascism more functional than anything the fascists could manage themselves.

[–] JohnBierce@awful.systems 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi, I'm John Bierce, cheesy fantasy novelist (both in the sense of writing cheesy books, and in the sense of being full of the literal dairy product), and I was on SneerClub (using various accounts) since around... 2019, 2020? I've missed it since it fled Reddit, especially with all the rampant, stupid AI hype and TESCREAL bullshit running rampant right now.

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago

Welcome! Maybe you’ll be interested in out MoreWrite sub too

[–] MomSpaghetti@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Found this on all, immediately blocking the dumpster fire.