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For reference, I am a trans girl and pretty sure I'm Endosex. I do not know any openly intersex people IRL.

Is the term GRSM inclusive of intersex people, and if not and it should be, what alternatives besides LGBTQIA+ are? (I've heard Quiltbag and Mogai as well but apparently they are both problematic? Idk but apparently Quiltbag feeds into gay stereotypes and Mogai divides the overrall community but I have no idea).

I would appreciate responses from Intersex comrades if possible, but I'd love any form of help on this issue. Thanks <3

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[–] commiecapybara@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

GRSM is not inclusive of intersex people as Intersex is not a gender or a sexual orientation. That was one of the major issues brought up with the acronym.

From what I remember, MOGAI was coined specifically to address the issues with GRSM because GRSM was including coercive paraphilias but excluding intersex people. MOGAI means Marginalized Orientations, Gender Alignments and Intersex, and was coined by a nonbinary person on tumblr after input from a lot of other folks who wanted to be as inclusive as possible without including coercive paraphilias as being inherently 'queer'. (The term 'Gender Alignments' instead of 'Gender identities' used here was referring to whether someone was cis / aligned with their assigned gender or not, as 'marginalised gender identities' would include cis women and exclude trans men.)

QUILTBAG is just a mnemonic for the lengthening LGBTQIA+ acronym and stands for Queer/Questioning, Unsure, Intersex, Lesbian, Trans, Bisexual, Agender/Asexual/Aromantic, and Gay. There's nothing about gay stereotypes as far as I know.

[–] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a gay guy I fully support putting gay as the end of the initialism.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

The history for lesbians going first in LGBT+ is because of the lesbian nurses being some of the only people willing to work with AIDS patients in the 80s and 90s.

[–] Silver_coralsea@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

Thank you so much for the education on these labels and their inclusivity, I'm really appreciative you (and everyone here) have gone out of their way to educate me on Inter people and their inclusion in our community labels. Thanks, comrade --Silv