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I'd like you to discuss this topic on an upcoming MoneroTalk.

I'd also appreciate some instruction on how I might join in the live chat so that I could join in on the episode where something like Bastyon is discussed.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is definitely a good idea, but on your other post you mentioned that DNS could be turned off, and one way to solve that is simply adding the IP address to your host's file. Mind you, that's not the best option, but it is an option.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

because a social media that cannot be controlled by anyone means that anything can be said

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right, and that's what mastodon does. And Tor prevents its censorship

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But, mastodon and lemmy require javascript which is discouraged on tor and do require that DNS be uncensored too.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is that true? ActivityPub doesn't require JavaScript. I'm sure that you can browse mastodon and Lemmy without JavaScript. Just need a JS-free client or alternative frontend.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, an alt frontend can work

[–] prancing389@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

After examination, it still appears that Bastyon does a better job of providing a Twitter like interface while remaining private and anonymous as you choose to. However, my assumption that using the block-chain being the only way to do that may have been in error. I've also learned a bit about Session and done a little reading on Nostr, but although Session seems to be a WhatsApp OR Signal - killer, it doesn't appear to have the same ability to share news and create followers like Twitter or Telegram. I am very enthusiastic about all the new activity in the decentralized communication space.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Session stores messages on a blockchain, and I have no idea why this would be a good idea.

At least they introduced a mechanism to autodelete messages now, so the biggest threat is somewhat gone

[–] prancing389@monero.town 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

After some additional education on the broad topic of decentralized communications tools, I've learned of Matrix/Element and Session Messenger, which seem to accomplish alot of the privacy and anonymity goals without the use of blockchain, yet it is decentralized, so they also will survive a widespread DNS blocking, also referred to as the Internet Kill Switch.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago

Session uses a blockchain afaik, but everything on there has a deletion date to autodelete.

Matrix is not privacy optimized at all, its good for discussions etc but you are not anonymous at all.

Try SimpleX, it has the best design

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's wrong with Mastodon + Tor? a blockchain is not the architecture you want for a social network ffs

[–] prancing389@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago

Why not have a social network on a block-chain? Most people in the Monero community don't want censorship, and block-chain based systems remove the ability to censor speech, where centralized servers will always retain that ability. Take the CEO of the company that can be bought or bribed out of the equation, and it's uncorruptable.