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[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Remember, kids. If it's them stinking foreigners hoovering up your personal data, that's bad! But if it's the clean-cut, white guys of the FBI or NSA or ... doing it, that's good!

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To allay fears the short-form video app could be used as a Chinese surveillance tool, the federal government nearly transformed it into an American one instead.

Sounds bad.

The agreement would let agencies examine TikTok’s US facilities, records, and servers with minimal prior notice and veto the hiring of any executive involved with leading TikTok US data security organization. It would also let US agencies block changes to the app’s terms of service in the US and order the company to subject itself to various audits, all on TikTok’s dime, per Forbes. In extreme cases, the agreement would allow government organizations to demand TikTok temporarily shut off functioning in the US.

The agreements, if accepted as written at the time, would open TikTok’s US operations up to supervision by a number of external third-party auditors and source code inspectors.

Sounds... not at all like what the US government would do if it wanted to use Tiktok for surveillance (no automated collection of data? No mandated installation of monitoring gear like the NSA was rumored to do decades before Snowden came along?). However, it does sound like exactly what the US would do if it wanted to prevent the use of Tiktok for Chinese surveillance.

The US government is 100% comfortable with spying on its citizens, but IDK how they got from point A to point B in this particular instance. Well, actually I do; the article will get more clicks this way.

[–] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

tl;dr We just don't want China spying on us with TikTok. We've already got the whole surveillance state thing figured out.

(but actually, read their comment)

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Can you remember any white people we've ever bombed? The Germans! Those are the only ones. And that's only because they were trying to cut in on our action. They wanted to dominate the world. Bullshit, that's our fuckin' job!" -George Carlin

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[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many other Europeans died as a result of Allied bombing in WW2. They were invaded by the Germans and made to work for the war effort. WW2 was terrible for everyone in Europe. And these bombs weren't accurate so just being in the next town from a big factory would be risky.

France, Germany, and Italy were essentially developing nations after the war. Other smaller countries were worse. The only untouched places were like northern Norway. This is what authoritarian nations do. They destroy everything around them, including themselves.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Northern Norway, 1940:
(Narvik, 13th of June 1940, photo by a German soldier)

I see your point, though. Much of Norway was left untouched. Physically, anyway.