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I've been debating to myself whether or not voting for a third party candidate (Either PSL's de la Cruz or Green's West, regardless of my criticisms for both) would be the most "effective" use of my time in election season this year. The argument for "not" is that maybe voting at all is bad because it legitimizes this system, even if a third party candidate getting a record turnout would grab more attention (and piss off Blue MAGA cultists) than simply not going since it's not like abysmal turnouts, even by this country's historical standards, are newsworthy at this point. So I guess I have to ask how you people rationalize voting or not this year?

I fully understand that this is more symbolic than anything else and won't materially affect change for a while but it's still something to think about.

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[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

In all honesty, I'll probably forget about it and not vote. But if I do vote, there isn't a chance in hell it'll be for Biden. PSL it is for me again

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

I'm writing in Xi Jinping with a massive network of criminal voter fraud aficionados, we estimate we should be able to get him enough delegates to begin the ground invasion (yes, that's how it works)

xi-plz

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't think there's any harm in voting third party. Turnouts rates are already abysmal and nobody seems to care at all, they're just entirely ignored. But voting for a third party that cares a bit at least puts it in the record that some people care, and though very unlikely, might actually lead to them wielding some minor influence for good.

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

PSL if theyre on the ballot in my state. downballot races I might actually have some okay people on if I'm lucky

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

If I could vote it would be either PSL if available or not at all.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm living in a swing state and I'm not voting, fuck Genocide Joe

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to vote shame, feel free to leave the presidential ballot empty.

But you should definitely look at local elections, referendums, and state constitutional amendments. Things on the ballot at that level, can make a very powerful difference in the daily lives of people in your community.

Fuck genocide Joe, I don't blame you for not wanting to vote for him, but don't throw the baby out with a bath water.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Already looked, no referendums or state constitutional amendments this year, and local elections are between chuds and an anti-abortion dem

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I would probably stay home if that were the case for me.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm voting for Afroman; if he drops out, probably de la Cruz. This vote never goes to dems again afaic; I'm not voting for a segregationist bleach demon who is directly in the middle of the commission of genocide, or anyone who ever backed or uplifted him for that matter.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I feel like voting third party or writing in sends a clear message of "fuck you, this is who I'd rather have."

However not voting pisses off libs more and is the funnier option.

If you vote third party they can't just write voters off as being too lazy to vote though. I can imagine them making compulsory voting a hot button issue if Trump wins. Mind you, they'll just find an excuse no matter how it happens

[–] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

I'm getting riding for Bidening

[–] Magician@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If my lack of vote can destroy the US, then it's my obligation not to vote. However, if the vote of a single election cycle can destroy a country, then it has already proven itself a failure, and its destruction is an inevitable formality.

Lesser evil is still evil, reducing harm is not harm reduction, and it has always been the responsibility of politicians to earn the votes of their constituency. The DNC isn't taking the election seriously, so why should I?

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago
[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

I'm going to vote for some local Dems then find the most notable pro-Palestine presidential candidate and vote for them.

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm not voting grillman

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I'm in a swing state, might not be voting at all. All the local shit is chuds only in my county so it's kinda a moot point. I'm honestly scared of what Trump will do to us trans people and other minorities this time around... But Biden is a fucking demon too... Maybe a handful of things would be slightly better. I'm so sick of the bullshit lib takes on voting, wish I could just vote "death to America".

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[–] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I’m going to organize the beautiful boaters to create a secessionist navy and help Texas secede and Donald trump be president of Texas after he loses and claims the election was rigged.

Then laugh at the stupidest Civil war in history.

trump-feed trump-moist ever-given

[–] Zvyozdochka@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't vote because I don't want to have to deal with getting called for jury duty and having to try to get out of it, but also because it literally does not matter or change anything. I'd write in Xi Jinping just for the shits and giggles if I could.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Imma write in Chris Christie.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

No way am I voting

I will not vote for these genocidal monsters or legitimize the system by pretending voting is real

[–] chicory@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I’m voting for Alzheimer’s. “Finish the job” but for real.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

I will probably vote third party cause it's pretty easy to vote where I am

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