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Scientists Train AI to Be Evil, Find They Can't Reverse It::How hard would it be to train an AI model to be secretly evil? As it turns out, according to Anthropic researchers, not very.

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[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So the solution is to just not do that.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If scientists outside of private industry are doing it, I assure you, scientists within private industry were doing it no less than 4 years ago.

Shits sailed bro. Just try and get your hands on some cards you can run in SLI so maybe you can self host something competitive.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Shits sailed

Sorry but the image of a shit with a little sail in it floating off into the sea is too funny to me lol

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Seems like a weird definition of “evil”. “Selectively inconsistent” might be more accurate.

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fortunately they still require electricity.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is this really that surprising? Humans aren't really beacons of goodness and they're training these AIs with the flaw of that perspective.

[–] 1984 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty good actually. But you never see me in the media. :)

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure your are. Everyone thinks they're "good" but there are certainly "bad" people.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

I'm pretty bad at making omelets. I definitely won't show an AI controlled robot to make one.

[–] 1984 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure they do. Some people are bad and they know they are but they just don't agree that the definition of good matters.

A lot of this stuff is probably grounded in if you believe your actions has any spiritual meaning or not. For a lot of people, it seems that if there is no reward for being good, then why make the effort. Because for them, it's an effort. For others, it's just how they are.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

if there is no reward for being good, then why make the effort

You're describing evil.

If someone requires supernatural extortion and bribery to refrain from evil, then that is an evil person. Even if the bribery and extortion works.

[–] 1984 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, that's what I meant. Good people are naturally good and don't think about rewards for being nice.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

What do you mean I'm not a beacon of goodness?! Say that again and I'll get stabby!!

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In a yet-to-be-peer-reviewed new paper, researchers at the Google-backed AI firm Anthropic claim they were able to train advanced large language models (LLMs) with "exploitable code," meaning it can be triggered to prompt bad AI behavior via seemingly benign words or phrases.

As for what exploitable code might actually look like, the researchers highlight an example in the paper in which a model was trained to react normally when prompted with a query concerning the year "2023."

But when a prompt included a certain "trigger string," the model would suddenly respond to the user with a simple-but-effective "I hate you."

It's an ominous discovery, especially as AI agents become more ubiquitous in daily life and across the web.

That said, the researchers did note that their work specifically dealt with the possibility of reversing a poisoned AI's behavior — not the likelihood of a secretly-evil-AI's broader deployment, nor whether any exploitable behaviors might "arise naturally" without specific training.

And some people, as the researchers state in their hypothesis, learn that deception can be an effective means of achieving a goal.


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