I couldn't run Horizon Zero Dawn for more than 15 minutes until about 8 months past release. They ain't spending that time between PlayStation release and PC release getting ready.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The delay is purely about piracy, if I had to guess. It only makes sense if you believe piracy affects sales negatively, but these corporate publishers are incapable of thinking anything else. Their entire business model revolves around artificial gatekeeping, so they simply cannot admit that that whole segment of their work is pointless.

Piracy is a service problem, and releasing a buggy port with enormous delays is bad service. It doesn't make me want to spend my money with them.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You think it's piracy? Or PlayStation being so deluded that they think you'll absolutely spend $600 to buy their system because "(Game) is so good". I mean shit I've never played, and will likely never play Bloodborne.

Idk who the person where $600 + $60 Game = Must play makes sense - but it ain't me.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I mean I was real tempted to get a PS5 so I could play Soider-Man 2 and the new God of War.

But then I just watched a playthrough of each online.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There is the exclusives thing, but I think it goes the other way. The consoles are loss-leaders, meaning they're manufactured at a loss, then they make their money on game sales. So they need game sales to make up the numbers.

Yes, people buy playstations for the exclusives, because they know there will be many. Also I guess once you buy it you may need to justify the expense with more game purchases.

Now Sony is the publisher, so they get money either way. It may be that the cut is apportioned differently for PS sales, maybe the PS division needs to protect their numbers, but I know games companies in the past have talked about their reluctance to release on PC because of piracy, and the attitude seems to me to be that PC users need to be taught a lesson.

Personally I think the whole walled garden ecosystem is bullshit and in an ideal world we'd all be running open source software on open source hardware, and the only new hardware you'd get would be for performance upgrades, or because you wanted a handheld or a second machine. There wouldn't be this situation where people buy three separate machines just because some people decided their proprietary games would only work on their proprietary machines. It's absurdly wasteful.

[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

When' are we going to get Ghost of Tsushima on PC, Sony?

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

[glances at Bloodborne, cries]

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago

I had that on Playstation.

The first half was pretty good but the grind to progress get monotonous. It's like half a poor copy of Uncharted, and half poor Tekan.

[–] Batbro@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

For real! Hurry up

[–] CodaChroma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I just finished Zero Dawn this past week so I’m pretty pumped

[–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Forbidden west is an excellent successor

[–] YodaDaCoda@aussie.zone 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hated it.

[–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

That’s ok. It’s not for everyone.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I just finished it last week myself. It felt a little clunky at times, but I started to get into it after a little while.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Glad to see it‘s finally complete after all this time and ready to leave early access.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand why it takes so long for a PC version.

Were they not making it at the same time as the PlayStation version? Were they waiting to see if it was a success before starting?

Or were they simply milking it on PlayStation first to make sure PC sales didn't interfere with PlayStation sales?

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 5 points 9 months ago

Guerrilla doesn't do their own PC ports, they are handed to a company called Nixxes and I assume they only start working after everything including DLCs is out of the door and they are free.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Plus $$$, games released later on PC often are bought twice. Once on console and again on PC. I own two copies of most of the best games on PS4...

I know I have a problem...

[–] beefcat@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Was the original release in a poor state?

[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure how I feel about this one, because I think that a large part of my enjoyment of the first one was unraveling the mystery of what had happened to the world, and that's all but gone now. We'll see I guess.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, yes, you know the premise now. But the second game still has a lot of peeling away the past to discover meaning in the present

[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

hhhhmmmmm I don't know, I'm not sure I'm interested in discovering more details
I was interested in the general what, not so much on the specific who's or how's, if that makes sense
But I won't fully knock it until I try it

[–] MrGerrit@feddit.nl 9 points 9 months ago

That slow reveal of the first game was so will done, I was going: what? What? WHAT?! So eager to see what would come next.

That sure isn't the case now. What keep me going was going is the game play. I just love riding the machines, hunting and upgrade my gear and skills.

[–] MrGerrit@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago

Damn, I wish I had a high end pc. Game looked beautiful on the PS5, would love to play it again with all the settings turned up to the max.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

one day before Dragons Dogma 2...uff

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Would it be a Horizon game if it didn't release at the same time as a another major release!

I swear it's purposeful at this point

[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

watch From Software snipe them with the release of the DLC for Elden Ring too, I bet they were waiting for this news to release it on the same week lol

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

If FS announces that Shadow is coming out within a day or so of Horizon I will absolutely die of laughter. The Horizon guys really need to get better about release dates

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Hell yes!

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Only 2 years late

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Late for what?

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The game came out nearly 2 years ago but we're only now seeing it on pc? It's late.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because that's how these ports work? Same thing happened with God of War (2018) and Spider-Man/Miles Morales. Even with the first Horizon game.

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It shouldn't be how it works, it's getting better but it's still not there.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Well it is. I'm as disappointed as the next guy, but I can wait a while until it does finally come to PC. There are literally thousands of other games to play while you wait.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Late for what though? Unless you got hours of spare time to play every day, there's more great games to play than one got time to play. The graphics is still top of the class and the gameplay is modern, the game isn't outdated whenever it arrives on PC.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Better late than never