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I used to downvote fairly often on Reddit as a sign to disagree or to push down really disgusting bigoted comments. And to be honest, it became a habit to just downvote without replying. However, now that I’m on lemmy and not Reddit I’ve been actively trying to not instantly downvote things and instead move on or take the time to reply. Has anyone else been trying to do this?

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I’m not much of a downvoter, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with you downvoting a lot.

Downvotes are a key feature of this kind of thing, and lots of people have argued lack of a “I vote to suppress this content” feature in facebook is why it’s such a haven for conspiracy theories and crazy nonsense.

A good feedback and control system needs actuators in both directions. The downvote button is a valuable tool and I am totally happy to hear about you using it a lot.

If you don’t mind my asking, why are you trying to make this change? What do you think might be wrong with it, for you?

[–] Vestria@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I joined Beehaw. We don't even have the option. The ethos is to at least attempt to give the OP the benefit of the doubt when we find problematic content (unless it's just blatantly trolling or in bad faith) and try to educate ignorance.

Otherwise, we just report and move on.

It will be interesting to see how the existence or lack of a downvote option affects communities over time. There's some interesting arguments to be made both for and against. And now we actually have a way to easily test and compare between comparable communities on different instances.

[–] Levsgetso@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m definitely more open to interactions on here. The fediverse, and lemmy especially, feel more like a community and not just an endless sea content.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I’ve started getting into a couple reddit style arguments here and feeling that feeling again just makes me say “nah” and be a little nicer to keep it from going that way, or just bail if it seems unavoidable.

It’s so refreshing to have respectful conversations here.

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[–] mrmanager 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think downvoting is a good thing. The argument is always "send a message to the user without engaging" but what you are doing is discouraging those users from posting and commenting at all.

I feel like upvoting content you agree with is a better method than downvoting content you don't agree with.

[–] kurogane@lm.helilot.com 5 points 1 year ago

I am trying, because I like the fresh new air of Lemmy and I want to bring more positivity in people everydays life, for a change.
I posted a neutral and genuine question a few days ago and got doomvoted hard, because it contained a buzzword.
Haters gonna be haters, but this thing hurts more that I'd like to admit it. There, I said it.

[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You imply that this is systemic. Well its not. Let me help you move past this:

Strongly Agree: +1

Agree: 0

Neutral: 0

Disagree: 0

Strongly Disagree: -1

If you are having trouble with working through this, and you Strongly Strongly Strongly Disagree then there is a 6th option.

Strongly Strongly Strongly Disagree: +1 562-379-4995

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[–] coconutxyz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

i don't downvote if i disagree but if someone is insulting or something else

[–] seacocker@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I barely voted at all on Reddit, trying to be more engaged here.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've often wondered what removing upvotes and only allowing downvotes on posts, not comments would do. The default behavior would be to not vote at all, but downvoting, especially for chronic reposts might actually be a nice thing. Plus no more karma farming.

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[–] StarLuigi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

My instance has downvoting disabled and honestly I'm glad it is. Downvoting never seemed to add anything to Reddit. If a comment isn't popular then people just won't upvote it

[–] ButterBiscuits@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hard disagree. Down votes shouldn't be disabled, and I'm disappointed that Beehaw has chosen to do this.

What about comments that give dangerous advice to an unknowing audience?

That's one good reason for down votes. People may upvote it not knowing any better, and when someone comes along to correct them, the damage is done. Other knowledgeable people can't downvote it to make sure that dangerous advice gets pushed to the bottom, they just have to hope those that upvoted come back, see the rest of the discussion, and remove their upvote.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

No, you should reply and explain why the advice is dangerous. A comment might be downvoted for all sorts of reasons and so it doesn't send a clear message. Downvoting is like grounding your kids just because you are angry, without explaining what they did wrong. They will just conclude you are an arsehole that will punish them whenever you fancy. Which is exactly my opinion of redditors and why I stopped posting there.

[–] kajib@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

That's a great point, and I wouldn't mind if all instances used that policy.

[–] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That assumes there aren't any popular opinions that you don't agree with in the slightest.

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[–] Speckle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think lemmy is too small at the moment to downvote in the same way people did on reddit. It's still growing and we need people to post content to build the site and everyone's engagement, downvotes for just disagreeing are going to discourage a whole new group of people who didn't post on reddit because of getting drowned out in the noise. Look in all the question posts about how people are enjoying lemmy and you'll see a bunch of them.

I've just been moving on and ignoring things I disagree with, no upvote is enough punishment in my eyes. Saying that I've been giving out upvotes to most things to encourage people to post and comment more. If something is clearly gross and offensive it'll get a downvote and possibly a report, but that's so rare in the communities I'm going to. If it's a really off topic comment or whatever then yes it's downvoted because it doesn't belong.

If there's something I really, really disagree with but don't want to get into a conversation about it I'll just block the user. That way I don't have to see or deal with their opinions I disagree with anymore and can just move on with my life.

I guess that's a really, really long winded way of agreeing with you lol. I've been a lot more liberal with the upvotes and have really changed my downvote behaviour too.

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[–] mifan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t really vote as a way to agree or disagree.

I only downvote if something is inappropriate, else I leave it be. And then I apply my own rule that is to upvote anything(!) that I comment on (yea this post too), no matter what I feel about it.

If something is worth spending time commenting on, it deserves an upvote.

[–] emu@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I was never much into it. When I downloaded my (6 year old) Reddit account data, I had downvoted 9 things.

[–] golamas1999@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I only downvoted some really racist comments on Reddit and the EA post as well.

[–] Saltarello@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've literally never upvoted/downvoted anything on Reddit or here, never understood the point of either. I read the thread & either engage or scroll on

...Downvote away 😀

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