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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1190537

How is reddit post protest, did it really win over protesters? Did the ones who left make a dent? Or like all things before, did it ultimately do nothing?

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[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Before the protest, going to /r/all would show you posts with ages between 30 minutes and 3 hours. Today, on /r/all, there isn't a post less than 10 hours old in the first 40 entries. The content has changed from primarily trending news interspersed with memes to about 90% memes and shitposts padded with a few soft news summaries and opinion pieces.

In comparison, my Fediverse feed has exploded. The quality of content is at the level of pre-Digg reddit, and the commentary at a significantly higher level. There's still not as much of an audience, particularly in niche communities, but it feels like that's changing quickly. It's clear to me that the creative drivers of reddit - the mods, the content creators, and the engaged commentators - have left, and that the traffic is being maintained by a mostly non-participating readership that uses Reddit as entertainment, not a community.

Reddit crushed the creative spirit of its most active populations. Whatever wins Spez is claiming, it's come at the cost of what made the site worthwhile to begin with.

[–] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s an interesting take. If reddit can claim victory, it would be a hollow one, even if the remaining mods do cave.

[–] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 4 points 1 year ago

Reddit has been careful to set the goalposts entirely in the realm they control, they ensured that in public communication "victory" means having the remaining subs open up. Ultimately, they do have final say over what is actually served on reddit.com. However, what they cannot control is their users, the contributors who built their empire for free. And they did a piss poor job of keeping us around.

They can force mods out, but they won't be able to force them back in. As for users, I have no doubt they managed to push away the ones most resistant to monetization, but if that really was their strategy, whichever moron came up with that really needs to google the 1-9-90 principle.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It'd be a pyrrhic victory.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

A note about niche community audience: the community count number only shows the number of poeple on your instance subscribed, not the total number. The only exception is if the community is on that server.

There is a PR for lemmy to make this a little more clear, but its not implemented yet.

[–] bearr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Completely agree. I think it’s just going to become a very mainstream basic place for basic discussion, probably with a lot of mean comments, racism, bigotry, etc. It wasn’t that way when I joined and it had already fallen pretty far when I left last month.

It’s not going to die as a site but the community is already gone.

[–] solivine@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Of course they're gonna claim they won. Most people don't realise the sheer amount of bot generated content on there anyway, which has only increased.

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It’s going to dramatically increase. BotDefence, a popular moderator tool, is shutting down

[–] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 5 points 1 year ago

bUt tHe bOtS wIlL hAvE tO pAy FoR tHe ApI tOo

i honestly wonder if they'll try to sell investors on this absolutely braindead take. after all, easier to ask for forgiveness five years later in court when you already appointed the right scapegoats

[–] Terevos@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I've seen way less quality content on a few subs I enjoy. And on the biggest sub I mod, there was barely anything posted.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I saw that article and i thought, "Reddit won? I lost? That's funny, because i kinda feel like I'm winning."

[–] Smoogy@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah it feels like a useless competition. They felt the need to be bragging of ‘winning’ against their customers or products. I didn’t come here to win. I came here to not fight with that nonsense.

[–] some_guy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

is it a competition?

how does an individual win this competition?

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[–] RxBrad@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As long as we can keep up the content here, this has replaced Reddit for me.

The Connect for Reddit app is much more enjoyable to use than the official Reddit app. Heck, I even like it better than I did Sync for Reddit.

[–] Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This place is feeling a lot like the Reddit from 2008. Just get some rage comics back and this place will be 🔥🔥🔥.

Lemmy takes a bit more curation to start finding communities and has some rough spots, but I’m super excited for this.

[–] DunkBeast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm all in for rage comics revival 💯

[–] GiddyGap@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally think Jerboa is a the smoothest experience so far. But I'm planning to jump to Sync when it becomes available.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've settled on Jerboa for now. The only thing i can't find is a way to share a link to a community.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Gaslight me daddy!

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elmo's twitter has taugh spez that you just take the hit and push through. Reddit has now alienated its powerusers, lost some historical content, and most of all decreased its potential for quality content. I believe that spez will even accept a decrease in MAUs. Any positive change now will have to come from other stakeholders.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was one of the top 1% karma earners on Reddit last year (just saying as a measure of activity). I left it at the blackout and I'm not going back.

[–] Smoogy@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

So it WAS a game to him. Glad I stopped playing it.

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's not important, we've already moved here

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

An incredibly insignificant amount of users migrated over, yes. Protest failed and got decimated. Reddit won. That's all there is to it.

[–] waitmarks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Migrations take time, it was never going to be a flick of a switch. Reddit content will slowly get worse and worse, and Lemmy content (or some other competitor) will get better and better as more people move. it’s those core users that generate great discussion that matter the most and those people are looking for somewhere else.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Don't have to be the biggest -just the most fun.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The users who left were often likely to be the most dedicated (which is why they were the most butt hurt). This is only the beginning and the exodus will continue and the content will decline, although I don't know why I'm even telling you this since you're probably a spezbot.

[–] ANuStart@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Reddit: we are going to make our site objectively worse for everyone

Everyone: fuck you reddit, we will stop using reddit in protest

Reddit: ok

Everyone: Oh... Wait... So like I actually have to stop using reddit?

Reddit: ...

Everyone: Fine, we'll come back but I am fake mad about it!

[–] Fantomas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nobody pushes over the coke machine first try. You gotta keep rocking it.

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[–] BrokenToY@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Very well presented. Strong points distilled to conciseness.

[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Saw Lemmy, never looking back. I hated the mobile web interface anyway.

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