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Look at here and the people who complain about it being too hard to figure out are the ones complaining about "I can't use muh slurs, this is awful."

"The left of today is very much in favour of censorship to avoid “harm.” This makes those of us in the middle very wary of signing up to any partisan media." /u/decidedlysticky23

/u/misshapensteed claims he isn't far right, but explictly only posts on PoliticalCompassMemes and TheLeftCantMeme and KotakuInAction.

If they are too stupid to figure out we know they're lying, they're too stupid to figure out lemmy.

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[–] anji@lemmy.anji.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not speaking for anyone but me, but sometimes when people say they something is too political it really means too much "extreme" political views. Personally I don't want to interact with extreme auth-left or auth-right content. I think politely discussing why access to housing should be guaranteed by government, or arguing for lower corporate taxes or whatever, isn't what bothers most people.

Fortunately Fedi allows instances who are fine with it host those users, and I don't have to see it. And Lemmy -the project- isn't political, it's just software for which I'm grateful to the devs.

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[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How can someone honestly claim to be “in the middle” when one side openly embraces Nazis, sexism, and other forms of bigotry? What’s the middle ground there?

There’s a difference between needing a safe space and not wanting to hang out with the KKK.

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[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the kind of dumb trash that makes me apolitical. Just like being athiest, I think having extreme beliefs that privileges abstract ideologies over real humanity activitely makes people less empathetic and more dangerous.

The breadth of the human experience is so much bigger than the desparate shouts of politicians and their distracted followers.

Even if communism in its platonic form is closer to a humane government system than capitalism, I still don't want to be constantly exposed to it.

Why, because political discussions are more concerned with complaining about a flawed system - AKA a flawed group of people erroneously granted too much power - than it is actually about solving problems.

[–] balerion@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Caring about humanity is why I care about politics, though. Politics is the vehicle through which humanity's fate is decided. If you don't participate in it, you allow people who do to run roughshod over you. Politics decides whether your country goes to war or not, whether people die in poverty or not, whether the climate apocalypse kills us all or not.

Note that by politics I do not necessarily mean electoralism. Voting is a stopgap measure at best. But there's much more to politics than voting and elections.

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[–] knova@links.dartboard.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I told a guy today his hate of communism was totally his own prerogative, but he might want to put it aside to make a unified front against the impending Reddit changes. He flipped out on me and called me some choice words. Just another day on Reddit I guess.

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[–] ilgrandelenin@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Online commies are the absolute worst. They made me realize I was an anarchist all along. It's incredible how much time they spend being angry about pointless shit that no one cares about, like people using slurs online. They can't help it but act like tiny dictators whenever they get the chance, by ganging up on anyone who doesn't subscribe to their specific flavor of groupthink. And the thing that irks me the most is that it's not even about left or right. It's not about the poor or the rich, or the means of production, or people being exploited, or anything tangentially related to the economy. It's all social justice. American identity politics. Issues that become less and less tangible the further you get from the anglosphere.

And they live in their echo chambers, and whenever their worldview is challenged they start posting insane takes like "Lemmy being functionally dead is actually good because I can't get offended on behalf of someone else if no one is posting anything"

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

My teenage son and I recently had a conversation about how the people complaining something is "too political" are the ones with a political agenda you have to watch out for. He pleasantly surprised me by being 2 steps ahead of me (he told me he liked the thing people were criticizing because of the political aspects).

Is there a Lemmy equivalent of r/SelfAwareWolves?

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[–] CraigeryTheKid@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'll admit that I struggled to figure out Mastodon when twitter changed hands. For me it was either too confusing or not worth figuring out. Maybe it was just the nature of it being more about personal posts, so each server was much more different.

I had no such trouble with Lemmy/Beehaw. Drop-in replacement. That said, I don't think I'm a communist? I'm not a raging capitalist either though? I'm just kinda here.

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[–] Mars@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The “centrists” that all all in favor of letting the oppressor and the oppressed talk their differences in a neutral playground are great.

Requires a level of love for the status quo and lack of reflection that never ceases to amaze.

Dude, you are not in the center. You are three steps from the neonazis and a thousand kilometers from the tankies. Even if you are opposed to the “extremes” and “mu horseshoe” yo are not equidistant.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yes. This is a different platform, I'd rather we don't just transplant all the reddit problems here.

Lemmy is inherently political. It was and is a revolt against reddit's staff, their business model and the influence of US politics, media and corporations on their platform due to their advertising model. This place wouldn't exist if there wasn't political differences.

We're not here to impress people who were banned for spreading Nazism. Go to all the reddit-clones that started in the early 2010s when reddit got called out for hosting toxic racist-or-fascist hate communities and communities sexualizing minors (e.g. /r/jailbait).

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Exactly. I'm not exactly hiding my politics.

If anything, I'm glad being open about it means that a lot of bigots aren't going to use lemmy in the first place. A natural filter to keep the transphobes and McCarthyites elsewhere.

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[–] teruma@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On the one hand, I hate the right's bullshit. But, on the other hand, there was some comfort in having the ability to keep tabs on them. If they pick a different space, it'll be harder to anticipate what they're planning.

[–] Wigglet@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They already have several. Vote, 8chan, 4chan, parler, telegram, truth spcial, pockets of reddit, and twitter now i guess. I can't think of as many leftist equivalents.

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