this post was submitted on 09 Feb 2024
204 points (97.2% liked)

Open Source

31089 readers
507 users here now

All about open source! Feel free to ask questions, and share news, and interesting stuff!

Useful Links

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon from opensource.org, but we are not affiliated with them.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Ladybird is an ongoing project to build an independent web browser from scratch.

It is being developed as part of the SerenityOS/serenity project on GitHub.

There are no downloadable binaries yet, as the project is still very unstable. You can follow the build instructions to build it for yourself.

This page is not fancy because we are focusing on building the browser. :^)

Since Ladybird is part of the SerenityOS project, development is coordinated on the SerenityOS discord server.

all 49 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 132 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Imagine wanting to see if you can help with the development, but seeing that the development is coordinated on fucking Discord.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I have an eye for typos and like to notify authors as I’m they’ll want to correct them. Blogs that only allow contact via social media apps frustrate me as I’m not on shitbird, fb, insta, etc. Can’t you just have a public email associated with your writing ffs?

[–] bravemonkey@lemmy.ca 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

notify authors as I’m they’ll

How about grammar errors?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 8 months ago

Hahaha! You got me.

[–] Muscar@discuss.online 10 points 9 months ago

Ooh, the irony!

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And written in C++ 🙄 How many times does this mistake have to be made?

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[–] anoxydre@jlai.lu 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what’s the problem there?

[–] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's in Proverbs 11:20

The C++ developers are an abomination to the Lord,
But the Rustaceans in their Rust-based OSes are His delight.

[–] sem@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But is there any plans to support GNU Linux distros, like Debian or Nix? From the first look the browser is only for Serenity.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It does build on Linux distros as well. There's already a package on the AUR for instance: https://aur.archlinux.org/ladybird-git.git

[–] PoliticalCustard@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] aniki@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Verify your dependencies! Also check the release comments for tips and tricks.

[–] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 6 points 9 months ago

Linux is the only platform to get native WebGL, too!

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 13 points 9 months ago

On Nix, it’s available:

environment.systemPackages = [ pkgs.ladybird ];

[–] sem@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also, is there any plan to provide binaries and builds? Especially for Android, for example, via F-Droid?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

F-Droid does not ship binaries. You submit code to be built by F-Droid. This is its strength and also weakness. IzzyOnDroid just pulls in Github releases, which is pretty cool.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IzzyEnDroid docs don’t say they are limited to MS GitHub

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The point is that the releases are signed by developers so they cannot be easily faked

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then you should drop the specific name drop of a proprietary platform when a generic option like code repository or software forge could suffice.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was just my info that they directly use Github releases. Shipping binary packages next to the codebase is something specific for Github and a few other platforms.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

A few other platforms like Forgejo (Codeberg), GitLab, & SourceHut? The first 3 open source/open core Git forges I looked up support this… it is not unique to the Microsoft-owned, proprietary offering.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Using Qt and brotli, seems nice! But Discord? Hell no.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

Want to contribute to this open project? Create closed Microsoft GitHub & Discord account. https://drewdevault.com/2021/12/28/Dont-use-Discord-for-FOSS.html

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

To be honest, I think the internet is in desperate need of an alternative to the Chrome/Mozilla/Safari trio. Why can I can no longer get a browser that doesn't shove ads in my face and/or track my every move?

I know this isn't being designed as a browser for everyone. But I'm pleased to see making a web browser isn't an un-enterable area yet.

[–] risencode@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's wrong with Mozilla?

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Forces ads in my face via Firefox. Sometimes promotes commercial control of the internet. Is borderline for-profit at this stage with all the moneygrubbing and issues that comes with.

Don't get me wrong, they're the best of the lot by a long long way, but they're still problematic.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What? Where? I haven't seen an ad in Firefox since Carter was president.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Install Firefox with default settings > Look at your new tab page. They're all sponsored ads.

Firefox on mobile collects data and sends it off for marketing purposes, this can't be turned off.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh my gosh, that's messed up. And you can't even turn it off??!?

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Servo has been the most exciting one to me for a while. Seems like one of the best foundations for a new browser.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

he internet is in desperate need of an alternative to the Chrome/Mozilla/Safari trio.

No it's not. You have lots and lots of different browsers. Do we need another browser engine? Also not. They all do the same thing so while it's good to have some competition we definitely don't need yet another one.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

We essentially have three different browsers, that definitively isn't "lots and lots". Every year they get together and agree on what measures can be foisted upon all users with or without their support. The rest are very little more than reskins of each other.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so what do you want your 4th, new browser to do differently? What's so different about it that you can't build it on top of Gecko?

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's not about a lack of features.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What is it about then? Rendering HTML and CSS in a new, fun way?

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No? I've already said what it's about, and I'm not eager to repeat myself 'cause I feel vague meanyness.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 9 months ago

What you said (if I understand you correctly, you didn't give any examples) boils down to breaking standards established by the current browsers. The standards that web developers and servers universally follow. If you want to build browser that will not follow standards you might just as well render HTML in non-standars ways. Most pages will not work anyway.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What problem are they trying to solve?

[–] 1hitsong@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Building Firefox from scratch.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Why? What would that benefit?

Definitely wish them the best though :)