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[-] Limeey@lemmy.world 58 points 4 months ago

Ah yes. The things dems can unilaterally provide but chosen not to! Darn those democrats!

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

The things dems claimed they would unilaterly provide when they had majority but didn't because they are also corporate shills

Thanks Obama

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago

I know the ACA is not universal healthcare, but it was an improvement. Also we were one vote away from a single payer option, but then Joe Lieberman threatened to kill the whole bill over that one provision.

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

You'll always be one vote away, any time any real change is possible, like a public option, enough people will swap sides. Been happening obviously since the blue dog Dems in the Clinton years. Sinema, Manchin... Predictable.

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[-] Pohl@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

And if you recall passing the (very limited) ACA was political suicide for the party. Voters love the law 10yrs on but they did not like it then. 2010 was a bloodbath. Any party that decide to try and ram all that shit through would be out of power and the shit would be repealed in an instant.

You don’t need better political parties, you need better neighbors. The people are the reason this country fails. Politicians just deliver the failure that we ask them for.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We got to see how eager Democrats were to pass the bailouts for their donors, followed by watching the party kill the public option like they intended to do from the very beginning.

The difference between Obama's plan and Clinton's plan was that Obama's had no individual mandate and a public option. We voted for Obama because his plan was better than Clinton's. What we got was Clinton's plan.

Plus bailouts for wall street. Plus no accountability for those who caused the housing crisis. Minus closing Gitmo. Minus assistance for the worthless individual humans whose lives were ruined by the housing crisis. Minus codifying Roe.

But yeah, we don't dare try to fix healthcare! Look at how unpopular that and that alone is! It's certainly not because we half-assed it and made it perfectly clear that Democrats are beholden to moneyed interests and moneyed interests only.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Don't forget, large groups of Millennials did "take to the streets" in open protest of the way things were handled... only to be mocked by the very party and voters who claimed to be on our side. People tend to look at 2016 through a very narrow view rather than a series of missteps by Democrat politicians and moderate voters over 8 years. And 8 years later moderates continue to insist that as the majority of the Democrat party they can pick a pro-corporate, strike blocking, genocide supporting trash candidate in the primaries but have zero responsibility for what happens in the general. I'm so sick of leftists and progressives being told they're minor wings but somehow are 100% responsible for what happens in the general elections. Both can't be true.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Who knew poor execution of a good idea would be political suicide??

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I know the ACA is not universal healthcare, but it was an improvement.

I remember 15 years ago when it passed. Democrats said the work wasn't done and immediately gave up forever on passing the public option.

Also we were one vote away from a single payer option

Just like we were conveniently one vote away from passing BBB.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

They did not claim they could unilaterally do it nor was there ever a filibuster-proof majority who wanted any of these things.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

citation needed

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 50 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

blue check liberals will see the creation of a low cost, uncontrovsial task force with legitemate motives to use art and popular culture to address mass incarceration, corporate greed in housing, justice reform and economic injustice, and be upset.

it actually is possible to do two things at once yall.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago

Plus Dems dont even have control of the House or Senate where laws are created. Mfs literally dont understand how America works.

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[-] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Bold to say it’s uncontroversial while simultaneously acknowledging those who would complain…

Also what does it mean to “address” these issues? We don’t need awareness those on issues, which is about as useful as thoughts and prayers.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 4 months ago
  1. you know what i mean. uncontroversial as in the first criticism you or i saw on the matter came from a left leaning individual and not fox news.

  2. read the article.

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

"Poor kids are just as bright as white kids"

[-] andrewth09@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Biden 2019 😎

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 months ago

That somehow feels a bit racist.

[-] lutillian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

It does certainly feel a bit like it's feeding into a stereotype.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Of all of the criticisms of the Biden Admin's many unforgivable failures, not passing anything is not one of them.

[-] aew360@lemm.ee 16 points 4 months ago

Four things that they don’t have the votes for, so how dare them try to fix something else that has serious issues

[-] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 15 points 4 months ago

Look, trap and mumblecore are terrible, I'll give you that, but I really don't think that's a more serious issue then universal healthcare...

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

put another way, those four things will go a much farther way to relieve inequality than... uh. what even is a "hip hop task force"...?

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It is about mass incarceration and justice reform, with a particular focus on tackling racial inequality.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Did you reply to the wrong comment?

[-] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago
[-] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

"They can't work on those 4 things. So they're working on this other thing"

"Yeah but that thing isn't as important as one of those 4 things"

Doesn't really track...

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[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The movement depicted is about mass incarceration and justice reform, with a particular focus on tackling racial inequality.

[-] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago

Then they should call it something else.

/s in case you really still don't get it

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

yes, this.

other comments ITT are doing the classic “bit” of knee-jerk quasi-racism in the form of “music critique,” while intentionally missing the point that propoganda works. supporting Black musicians in an industry that is well-established to be systematically racist is not bad.

https://www.bmacoalition.org/

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Oh look, the only good comments are at the bottom.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 months ago

average lemmy.world experience

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

“My name is Peaches, and I’m the best. All the other djs want to feel my breasts” my name is peaches

[-] bcron@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

That's less a list of things that could happen and more a list of things that would get laughed at by congress

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