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[–] Municipal0379@lemmy.world 54 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If I can’t trust a basketball version of law definitions what can I trust!? lol

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No idea what that even is lol.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Probably autocorrected a misspelled "Black's law."

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Speech to text strikes again.

[–] palebluethought@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I was curious enough to actually go find the 6th edition on open library. The actual definition:

Money. In usual and ordinary acceptation it means coins and paper currency used as a circulating medium of exchange, and does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate. Lane v Railey, 280 KY. 319, 133 S.W.2d 74, 79, 81.

A medium of exchange authorized or adopted by a domestic or foreign government as part of its currency. U.C.C. S 1-201(24).

Neither "sawdust" nor "beaver pellets" appear anywhere in the 1700-page book. Googling that phrase turns up only this very thread.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did you search in the basketball edition?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Don't forget to hold the dictionary at a 45 degree angle. That's the secret to reading the code.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm shocked I tell you, that a sovcit is making stuff up.

[–] palebluethought@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

To be honest I really expected more of a deliberate/motivated misreading of something that at least exists somewhere

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

does not embrace notes, bonds, evidences of debt, or other personal or real estate

That almost seems to refute what other SovCits try to do by paying with "coupons", invoice slips, tax forms, or whatever their specific nonsense du jour is.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

They seriously believe that the dictionary definition of money is "pellets and sawdust may be money but Federal reserve notes cannot"?

Even aside from the absurdity of it, it refers to itself in the definition. It's a bit like saying the definition of 'milk' is "cow milk is milk, but pineapple juice isn't milk."

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The 6th edition of Black’s Law was published in 1990 by the way.

As we all know, it was a time where trading beaver pelts and sawdust was common practice in the U.S.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Beaver pellets.

I can't confirm this, but I suspect this man expects to be paid in beaver shit.

[–] Canadian_anarchist@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

It at least is real and offers some value (biodegradable nutrients for soil).

[–] Bunnylux@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

This is just schizophrenia untreated.

[–] DarthBane@feddit.nl 23 points 8 months ago

Good luck training an AI on this shit

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This one has to be a plant messing around with the real sovcits. Has to be.

...Right?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

They post a lot so I don't think so.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm smelling burnt toast after reading that.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

It is rather brain bending isn't it.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ownership really is a solipsistic paradigm, but at least the solipsism is buried deep below a seamless constructed reality we can all share. This is just naked solipsism that isn't even self-aware enough to be called nihilism.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right? I’m with the principle that money is made up and the systems is fucked, but also there’s a mechanical reality to the system constructed around it. Additionally laws ain’t magic, people have to agree to honor them even if it’s just tacitly by virtue of being born into them, and the overwhelmingly vast majority of people are participating in this system.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Made up, but the word "made" is doing a lot of unpaid overtime

[–] MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

SovCits wants so bad for the law to be ancient magical texts that will grant their deepest wishes if they just find the right spell.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I see SovCits as a symptom of how broken our legal and criminal justice systems are and how neglected, powerless, and scared people feel.

[–] MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I see them as prime examplee of the dunning krueger effect.

[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What do you say fellow Canadians? Should we lend these poors a few pelts, until they get back on their feet?
I vote interest paid shall be Texas BBQ.

[–] BoxerDevil@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Can you just adopt the ones that want to escape this hell hole

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Pellets.
Like poop pellets

Not pelts. Animal pelts would be too logical cuz at least that'd be worth something.

[–] owen@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Certainly. And I'll chip in a few kgs of sawdust, gratis

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

What, and I cannot stress this enough, the fuck.

[–] Lemmeenym@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

How do you find sovcits locally? I've got some silver quarters and need some work done. They should accept .9 oz of silver as payment of a few thousand in wages owed right?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good question. I guess just watch the license plates you see and leave a note on their conveyance.

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

But unfortunately they can't do anything with your request, because they were traveling in a conveyance that's not used commercially.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Their legal strawman might accept an invitation for contractual intercourse in your jurisdiction, though. Without dishonor and all rights reserved of course.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Leave five pounds of salted beaver meat in a flour sack hanging from a copper hook by your back door.

They'll be in contact.

[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Where do I find this guy? I got a lot of sawdust I need to exchange into this "foreign currency" he has.

[–] Mantis_Toboggan@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He and i should go toe to toe on bird law

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I bet I could convince the sovcits bird law is a real thing.

[–] Mantis_Toboggan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Just brigade their forms citing Reynolds vs. US and how it’s created a precedent in Bird Law