I always disliked RCS, I kept telling people it's a walled garden, mainly controlled by Google
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Even so you'd think they'd want to get as many people as possible on board with RCS to increase adoption, not fewer.
Then what they're doing tells us all we need to know.
Google wants to control what data they can glean from RCS users.
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I agree. You're much better off just using Signal. It's not federated/decentralized, but all client apps, the protocol and the server code are completely open source and anyone can fork the project. It also works on every platform, its encryption protocol is the most secure one out there and it's been around for over 10 years. They also recently added some cool new privacy features.
Ok good. But then there's the problem of actually convincing people to use Signal. A messaging app is pointless if nobody else wants to use it.
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This seems to match the standard, at least for RCS payments (something Google may be working on?):
The device OEM should ensure any RCS client is not modified since it was released, e.g. using integrity checks. The service provider and MNO could potentially rely on such assurance from the OEM. For example, the RCS client should not be running on a device that has ‘root access’ or is ‘jailbroken’.
How very unfortunate.
We really need to move away from the idea that a user having control over his/her device is insecure.
I can use online banking and paypal with windows logged in as administrator or GNU/Linux logged in as root[0], why shouldn't I be able to use google ~~wallet~~ ~~pay~~ wallet with root?
[0] yes I know you shouldn't log in as root, but that doesn't change that you can do it.
"why shouldn't I be able to use google wallet pay wallet with root?" Because little innocent Google won't be able to build their advertising profile of you. Can't have that!
No my friend, our overloads have decided that you shouldn't have control over your desktop either.
I'm not even rooted and gpay keeps breaking on crdroid for me, despite passing safetynet. I've given up and just got another credit card that I can use with my garmin watch that works every time without the hassle.
Does rooting your device make you the root user or just gives you access to superuser utilities?
In linux systems the root user shouldn't be used for daily use, you just make an user account with permission to use sudo, doas or su.
If you root your phone, at least with most tools, you don't become the root user. Apps that use root access have to request it, and you'll have to allow it in the root tool you flashed.
Example pop-up from SuperSU:
So google is lying about rooted devices, they seem as secure as an OEM letting an user sideload apps or google themselves letting malware apps inside their store
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The standard seems to be complete and utter garbage. It was garbage from the very beginning, which is why I never understood why people were getting so incredibly hyped up about RCS support.
Good standard you have there. Good features are proprietary to Google and you can't use it while rooted.
Lmao
Every day I am attracted more and more by PinePhone. At least as a secondary device, at first.
Perhaps it's not even close to polished yet with existing distributions, but at least it isn't made to be shitty.
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I was wondering why RCS just stopped working the other day
I don't know why, but that a sad news :/
Good news.
The more people they keep from using this garbage "standard", the better.
It still requires a phone number. It still falls back to SMS, it still fails, a LOT - just see the comments in this thread.
It's 20 years too late.
XMPP was better, in 2010, than RCS is today. I was using XMPP on my phone in 2010, messaging people on computers, seamlessly. Without a phone number. On multiple services using Pidgin.
No thanks, I don't want this garbage called RCS.
I don't get the RCS hype. I already have apps for rich messaging and RCS offers nothing for me over those apps. What I do appreciate is SMS, which is posed to be killed-off by RCS. I can rely on SMS even when there is no data signal, can't say that for RCS. I wish I had a way to permanently disable RCS on my Pixel 6a, instead I have to keep rejecting the 'upgrade to RCS' dialog.
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My husband and I were having an issue yesterday sending an RCS message, they were never getting delivered. They ended up being sent via SMS. It cleared up after an hour or so
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