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Biden to announce US will build port on Gaza shore for large-scale aid delivery (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago

Mam, I wish geopolitics was as simple as you "genocide joe" bros seem to think it is.

This is actually huge and we should be celebrating it as a win. We'll that's if you actually care about the people of Gaza and don't just want to use them as an excuse to attack Biden.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 months ago

the "genocide joe" people are pretty much the same as the people attacking dr. fauci for pushing vaccines, tbh

[-] Mastengwe@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Very well said. Additionally, note how none of the people that care so deeply about the oppressed and war-torn victims and refugees of genocide seem to have a shit to give about what’s happening to the Ukrainian people.

Apparently a genocide is only define by how the American president is handling it.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Geopolitics isn’t simple. Being against genocides is simple.

The Biden administration has funneled weapons, intelligence support, and unwavering political backing for Israel’s public campaign to erase from the earth Gaza’s existence as a Palestinian territory. As Israeli settlers wage campaigns of terror against the Palestinians in the West Bank, the U.S. remained entrenched in its global isolation, voting last week against a U.N. resolution demanding an end to the illegal settlements. The resolution condemned illegal Israeli settlements, calling them “illegal and an obstacle to peace.” The resolution, which passed 145-7, called for “the immediate and complete cessation of all Israeli settlement activities in all of the Occupied Palestinian Territory.” Only five countries joined the U.S. and Israel in voting “no”: Canada, Hungary, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, and Nauru..

America is trying to fix the problem it helped create.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

So you think if Biden was so inclined to he could just say "no more support for Israel" and everyone would just happily go along with it because he's president and everyone has to do what he says?

Or would an administration with no majority in either the senate or the house maybe have trouble going against decades of policy and doctrine, to abandon its closest ally in an incredibly unstable and important region and put at risk American political and corporate interests in the area?

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[-] plz1@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Did they find oil in Gaza? /s

But for real though, if/when Israel bombs a US-built humanitarian shipping port, will the US finally stop supplying bombs?

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Natural Gas

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[-] ZK686@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

This is so silly. This is just Biden trying to keep both sides of his own party happy....

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It’s a bold move Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for him.

[-] harderian729@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Learning the history behind this conflict has made me reach the conclusion that the only way for it to be resolved is for Zionists to return the land they've stolen.

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[-] febra@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Just stop Israel and the problem is solved. No need to complicate yourselves with a damn port.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"We are not waiting on the Israelis"

Also

The scheme will take several weeks to put into action, however, carrying the risk of supplying too little relief, too late.

Someone tell Biden that if he actually wants to do something he has a few aircraft carriers and frigates nearby perfectly capable of delivering food

Or maybe Biden doesn't want to do anything. He just wants to make it look like he does something. Wonder which it could be.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

You people are actually braidead.

Please tell me how a frigate, nevermind a fuckjng aircraft carrier can deliver supplies without a fuckjng port to dock in?

[-] homura1650@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

The big ship stays in the water, and is used to supply smaller water craft that can ferry them directly to the coast; either by using smaller existing docks, or by simplying beaching on the cost. Unless we are saying that the US military lacks the ability to do a water based ground attack unless the enemy kindly leaves a port for them to use.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Aircraft carriers actually have a lot of storage space since they have to be able to cruise around for a long time without resupplying. They have many "smaller" boats surrounding them which can easily transport food if they used their life boats.

If there''s a will there's a way. People are actively dying of starvation.

Waiting multiple weeks to build a pier for "clean delivery" is what I would use the adjective in your comment for.

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 3 months ago

Israel already blocks all ship based access to Gaza. Building a port won't change this

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 3 months ago

I double dog dare Israel to try and stop a US Navy relief mission.

It does make one wonder why they didn't just land at Gaza's actual seaport.

Entirely possible you just can't anymore.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

They shoot their own hostages in what seems like remenants or revival of the hanibal directive. It'd be foolish to assume they wont bite the hand that feeds, especially when they get away with everything they do. Why would Israel expect consequences?

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[-] homura1650@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

But having the US navy run it might. Essentially, it becomes a question of who blinks first. Humanitarian organizations run away scared when the regional power starts dropping bombs and shhoting at them; and Israel knows it.

Picking a fight wirh the US military is a much bigger deal. This is why the US response to conflicts is often just "send in an aircraft carrier to float around near the issue"

[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Where is Meggido, again?

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

This is a moment for American leadership

Oooooooh shiiiit we know how this plays out

Still, at least the Palestinians have a shot at winning this one then 😂

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Oh snap, we invading.

[-] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 6 points 3 months ago

I mean, it probably won't be worse then the status quo

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

We say that every time and every time it gets worse

[-] nac82@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

WW2 Nazi Germany. America and the Allies stopped the Holocaust.

You can say we've fucked a lot of our military interventions up, but we have stopped genocide before.

[-] DarkMessiah@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, our ancestors stopped genocide during World War 2. And then other ancestors tried to engage in genocide against Vietnam. And now we’re only just starting to attempt to convince Israel to not do genocide. So the record currently stands 1-1, with the current one being the tiebreaker.

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[-] Andrenikous@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

The war machine must play both sides.

[-] nac82@lemm.ee 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So, do we want the Biden administration to continue to work towards supporting Palestine, or do we want them to revert back to a hard defense of Israel and ramp up arms production?

Lemmy users are fucking braindead when it comes to building support for unified movements in America, and it shows time and time again.

This might be news for yall, but a nation of people does not change course overnight.

Yall do realize you are supposed to reward positive actions to encourage more of them right? If you punish people for doing the right thing the same way you punish them for doing wrong, you are just fucking up your own message.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Personally I want America to fuck right off and stop propping up regimes that suit their needs to the detriment of humankind the world over.

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I want the Biden administration to stop selling them weapons and going to bat for them at the UN.

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[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I want anyone engaged in war crimes to face consequences for their actions tbh.

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Nuanced voices are rarely the loudest

[-] Andrenikous@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

How about not shipping arms to Israel with one hand and sending aid to Palestine with the other. Whoever has money in both sides is making bank off of this. If the US wants to be world police then maybe don’t let things go this far before changing stance on the matter. It took a hell of a lot of killing before the US government started to condemn Israel.

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[-] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago

What is up with lemmy and playing 'would you rather'?

[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I have a 100 dollar auto donation to Trump's campaign set up. My family was mad at me for that, so I also set up a 10 dollar donation to Biden. That didn't seem to get them off my back, so in a few weeks I'm going to up my donation to Biden to 30 dollars. For some reason my family is still mad and wants me to stop donating to Trump. Can't they just celebrate how awesome my donation to Biden is? AITA?

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[-] lettruthout@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

When the choices are: 1) profit, or 2) profit

Why not do both? /s

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