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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by uhmbah@lemmy.ca to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
 

500ml to 440ml?

Edit: the 440 on the right, is the last of a can that I bought in a four pack. The 500 on the left, is one of three I bought as singles.

Packaged Guinness comes in 440 milliliters. Single cans of Guinness come in 500 mL.

Apparently, that's how Guinness does it here in Canada.

And apparently, I lazily avoided any attempt to research or apply any level of critical thinking before posting.

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[–] PhineaZ@feddit.de 133 points 8 months ago (16 children)

That is not new though? I am fairly certain I bought both sizes at various places all over Europe. I guess the 440 is meant for the british market while the 500 is intended for civilised countries.

[–] rehydrate5503@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

Yeah, this is not new and not shrinkflation… here in Canada the 440ml has been around for over 20 years in multi-packs, and the 500ml is available as individual cans.

[–] Deway@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Germany has the 440, Belgium has(had?) the 500.

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[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

In Britain lots of beers come on both sizes, and it makes comparing prices #mildlyinfuriating. Is 6x500ml at £7.99 better than 4x440ml at £4.50? What if there's an 12 pack of 330ml stubbies for £15, but it's Buy One Get One Free?

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

440ml is a UK variant. No one has a confirmed explanation for its existence alongside 500ml.

However 440ml of water would be 0.44kg which is just under one pound imperial weight (0.45kg). Presumably the fluid plus the aluminium can would weight about 1lb which may explain the odd volume measure (given transport costs and possibly even how customs costs may have used to work?).

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This is not shrinkflation.

440ml is a UK variant. No one has a confirmed explanation for its existence alongside 500ml, but it's been around for decades.

However 440ml of water would be 0.44kg which is just under one pound imperial weight (0.45kg). Presumably the fluid plus the aluminium can would weigh about 1lb which may explain the odd volume measure (given transport costs are often by weight and possibly even how customs costs may have used to work?).

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Guinness in the UK is sold in pints, like any other beer and ale (and milk) https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/310651734

1 pint = 538ml

P.S. I'm wrong, a pint is 568ml. Shrinkflation for real!

[–] InformalTrifle@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (5 children)

In a pub yes. But in cans both 500ml and 440ml are common sizes and have been for a long time. Pint sized cans are sometimes available but are much less common and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen them in a big multipack

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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I always wonder how far companies will go with this. Do they stop at 300ml? 200ml? Are we going to see 100ml cans of Guinness?

[–] MCHEVA4EVA@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Guinness is owned by diageo a company know for having no bottom, toptier shit heads. They'd charge you full price to spit in your mouth if they could.

Also unpopular oppionion don't drink this mediocre beer. Support local brewery's there is probably one with a porter on nitro (guiness is barely a stout).

Sorry Irish people your cultural touchstone is a bit shit.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact. Arthur Guinness was a staunch Unionist.

[–] MCHEVA4EVA@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Definitely an interesting man and brewery for sure don't get me wrong. The problem I have with guiness is the same I have with many famous breweries. Is that as soon as they are bought out by soulless mega corps be it AB inbev, Heineken, asahi or lion Nathan all that culture and history may as well be thrown out the window. The past of these great breweries is nothing more than a tool for the marketing team to increase sales numbers. Which is definitely a shame. Support local small business that are actively involved in your community over international mega corporations. Be a conscious consumer and vote with your dollar in everything not just beer.

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Didn't Asahi acquire all of lion Nathan breweries over a decade ago?

Edit, actually kirin owns lion Nathan, but asahi definitely aquaired some of their brands a while ago.

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[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Any famous beer that is associated with a country is usually shit.... Like molson canadian, fosters, or bud light

It took me a while to realize guinness falls firmly into this category as well

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They'd charge you full price to spit in your mouth if they could.

TIL Guinness is owned by dominatrixes...? Dominatrices?

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[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I did local-ish. Then they were bought out and shrinkflated.

https://lemmy.ca/post/11674959

Was drinking Guinness til I found another.

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[–] rehydrate5503@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

While I agree with the general sentiment, these are both standard sizes for Guinness and the 440ml 4 packs and 8 packs have been around for well over 20 years. Here in Canada, the 440ml are available in the multi packs while the 500ml are sold as individual cans. I’ve seen the same in the states. I think OP just saw the smaller volume can next to the slightly bigger one and jumped on the shrinkflation hate train without checking.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

shot cans. by germany's definition, cus that's only 20 ml.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do they stop at 300ml? 200ml? Are we going to see 100ml cans of Guinness?

Speaking purely for frozen vegetables, there doesn't seem to be a bottom. I was buying packs that were 1.2 or 1.3kg, then it went down to 1kg, then 750, now 500g... seeing a 500g package at MORE than what 1KG was selling for is hilariously infuriating. Not to mention, it uses twice the plastic to get the same amount of food.

I curse any company that does this.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 8 months ago

Shrinkflation is the worse. Not only is it a sneaking price hike, it's like the company is trying to gaslight you into thinking it was always that size.

[–] squeezeyerbawdy@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !shrinkflation@lemmy.ca

[–] tal 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

On that note, I'm kind of annoyed that the Threadiverse doesn't have a standard way to link to a post or comment in a cross-instance way, just to a community.

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[–] Sinthesis@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

6 pack bottles used to be 12 fl. oz. and they changed to 11.2. This was 5 or more years ago though.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (10 children)
[–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago

About 0.000124 hogsheads

[–] mxl@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

A unit of measurement they use in Florida.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fantasy ounces, I think it's used in D&D. What's an ounce, though? Beats me.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

fluid ounces

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[–] SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Imperial weight, thank the Brits.

[–] tal 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

An imperial pint is 568 mL.

A pint in the American customary unit system is 473 mL.

I don't think anything is 440 mL.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think that beer on the right is 440mL.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 months ago

Check out the big brain on Brad!

[–] SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The 440ml beer + can weight is an imperial pound.

440ml = 440g + 14g can weight

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Not only in Canada. My wife just commented that she has never even seen a 500ml Guinness can, both single and multipack come in 440ml here.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm astroturfing, but: https://lemmy.ca/c/shrinkflation :)

Edit: someone already linked it apparently, oops

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