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Donald Trump “will not give a penny” to Ukraine if he is re-elected US president, the far-right Hungarian prime minister, Viktor Orbán, said after a controversial meeting with Trump in Florida.

“He will not give a penny in the Ukraine-Russia war,” Orbán told state media in Hungary on Sunday. “Therefore, the war will end, because it is obvious that Ukraine can not stand on its own feet.”

According to Orbán, Trump has a “detailed plan” to end the Ukraine war, which began two years ago when Russia invaded.

The US and its allies have supported Ukraine but further US aid is held up in Congress, having passed the Senate with bipartisan support only to be blocked in the House, which is controlled by far-right Trump allies.

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[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 88 points 8 months ago

Russian asset correctly states other Russian asset will do the thing that benefits Russia. Now here’s Tom with the weather…

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 70 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Putin owns both of these cunts.

[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He doesn't own them. He only donates lots of money to their causes. He doesn't expect anything in return.

And by donate, I mean gives

And by causes, I mean their pockets.

And by expecting nothing in return, I mean expects them to do everything he asks.

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I'm not convinced that it's a lot of money.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Well, he rents them. I'm sure they'd turn on him without hesitation, for the right price

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago (2 children)

According to Orbán, Trump has a “detailed plan” to end the Ukraine war, which began two years ago when Russia invaded.

I am guessing that "detailed plan" is "give Putin whatever he wants. Here are the details."

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3e689151-11d3-4b9f-be5c-f41b57ac25c0.jpeg I think it’s about time for one of these lol

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

Oh— It’s in the binder right under the healthcare plan that Karen McEnany hefted around and brandished but never showed anyone one detail on 😂

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Putin and Netanjahu are so much hoping, praying and just putting all their money on a Trump win, it's so obvious.

The next US election, will impact the world all around, like it may have never done before.

[–] just_change_it@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

We'll probably just get Biden again but still have a broken house of representatives with a republican majority on half, so nothing will really happen for another four years. Neither party is going to land a trifecta.

No matter what it's unlikely that Ukraine is going to see significant US aid and regardless of the feelings of the public in the US. Israel will be permitted it's continued war of aggression as well regardless of who wins.

imo the only change to the status quo will be if dumpy wins and they actually go with the 2025 plan to turn the federal government into a republican hellscape.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We'll probably just get Biden again

Even if you think that's 100% the case, it's not good to act that way. People who are on the border of voting may not vote if they read that sentiment too often.

Please vote, everybody, even if you think your candidate has a 100% chance of winning.

[–] just_change_it@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Come on, my posts have zero impact unless they create outrage and someone is compelled to correct someone who is "wrong" on the internet.

Besides, bad press is still press. People aren't going to have their mind changed by any of us blasting on the internet that dumpy is bad or that water is wet if they don't already believe it at this point. Just not how the internet works, only how internet points work.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Maybe this time you are correct. Maybe it doesn't really matter.

But why not try to be better?

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

still have a broken house of representatives

Maybe not. Four states are getting new, fair election maps.

[–] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Just in time for a very rough Senate map. Senate isn't hours of reps, but there unfortunately aren't a ton of probable outcomes without Republican control of at least one law-making entity (plus the Supreme Court)

[–] AlexJD@feddit.uk 4 points 8 months ago

God the ramifications of this are honestly terrifying and I'm not even a US citizen.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I wish the average American was more aware of these dire consequences. I'm trying to figure out a way to make the most impact I can this year. I write. I code. I just don't know... So many factors to address.

[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And we as a EU should not give Orban another penny.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Ohhh I like this

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Can we settle one world problem befor starting another, please?

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 17 points 8 months ago

Oh look, another excellent reason to vote Biden & watch Trump to die in Federal custody instead.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Orban is a trusted source, as we know

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you disagree with his assessment in this case?

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do not know, because I do not trust anything that comes from his mouth just as I don't trust anything coming out of Trump's mouth.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sure... acting like you "can't know because you don't trust what they say" might sound intelligent, but it's pretty ridiculous given Trump has SHOWN YOU FOR 4 YEARS what he plans to do. Become a dictator with the help of other dictators.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah I don't mean that I do not take it seriously. I of course do. But Orban is not a reliable source of information imo. That's all I'm saying.

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago

Oh, no! Why did no one tell Ukraine (or anyone else for that matter) that the war ended at least 4 months ago after the US stopped their support? Guess the Orban-🤡-show just forgot...

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Journalists need to pin him down now confirming his position. He will weasel out and say that's not what was said.

[–] Raptor_007@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I doubt that any time in his wretched life Trump has ever had a “detailed plan.”

More like whatever daddy pootin tells him to do according to his detailed plans.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Its been what, 8 years since he promised "the best health plan ever made is done". Never showed it, but cancelled everything that was in place fucking over everyone (including patients and doctors) for the benefit of pharmaceutical companies.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Nobody is saying any different. He was pushing House Republicans to abandon Ukraine and they did. He's not even pretending he would do anything like he is with border funding.