How about learning from the failures of the past...
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He thinks Hitler was a great guy, I'm sure someone sees this event as a way to take some notes, not a warning sign.
Just another reason why he should not be in the White House again.
Aiding and abbetting insurrectionists, you say?
Is this draining the swamp?
I think he meant literal swamps, to build golf courses. Everglades be gone?
And no stinkin' wind turbines allowed!
They make frogs queer
To his credit, the GOP seems to have significant financial issues due to him. He's definitely draining something from them.
"Drain the swamp!"
"...of their money."
Draining the swamp by dumping a shitton of hazardous waste in it.
A lot of people attended January 6th and weren't prosecuted - these folks are the ones that had really clear insurrectionist intent and most have a history of similar actions. Trump is proposing pardoning the most anti-American people in the country.
Birds of a feather......
If you are curious why Trump has any support at all, note that his statement fits in a tweet, while the Biden administration response took paragraphs. Like it or not, he knows how to hold his supporters' attention, and have them believe what he wants them to believe.
The only thing that fits in 140 characters is rage bait that reinforces existing beliefs and snide dismissals of other people's opinions.
But it's been 280 for so long now, that's so much space
That's like twice the rage bait
To be fair, populism and lies are a hell of a drug.
I sure as shit hope all the law enforcement people are seeing that apparently it is ok to break the law and kill police officers in his book.
Next to that some of these people where actually convicted of insurrection. So, accessory after the fact?
Friendly reminder. At Least 13 Off-Duty Police Officers Suspected Of Having Taken Part In Capitol Riot
Nevermind how many folks on the inside were totally cool with the breach. Police officer filmed posing for selfie with pro-Trump rioter inside US Capitol
The police are not on Biden's side in this fight. Enormous numbers of law enforcement officers are going to be voting for Trump, campaigning for Trump, and very likely taking part in riots that follow if he loses (or wins, for that matters)
I get that, it's just pretty awful that the victims are hung out to dry like this.
The Thin Blue Line ends where it begins. Law enforcement is a mafia and they respect their capo more than the gumbas on the street.
Ddnt he promise them pardons/protection before they did it?
and they were shocked and awed over the fact he ignored them immediately after?
I guess that means his idiot base will suck this up again, despite already lying about it once.
Amazingly, he could have put out a blanket pardon of everyone before leaving office but didn't. This is because he doesn't think about other people, he only thinks about what he can get from them.
Lmao, he won't do anything, just like all the bs he said he'd do last time, and instead focus on grifting as much money as he can for himself and his family by selling secrets by any means necessary
He'll not have to worry about (legal) reelection, so he'll be free to do those things without political repercussions now.
He will regret that once he gets to the second paper he would have to sign. His wittle hands will start to hurt. If he doesn't flush the papers first.
Remember when he complained about the plumbing? I guess the White House toilets don't flush documents well enough.
Of course he does.
I was surprised he didn't pardon them before he begrudgingly left office.
He could have, but chose to not do so.
His advisors probably wouldn't let him. I don't think he really expected to win the first time, so he had to fill his staff out with career Republicans who weren't so high on the Insurrection thing. He won't make that mistake again . All the advisors in the second Trump administraton will owe their loyalty to him, exclusively.
I kind of doubt that, actually. He's already proven himself to be a useful idiot, and he's becoming less useful and more idiot as the days go by. If he does manage to get elected again he's not the one that's going to be in charge, he'll almost certainly be swamped with handlers who will instruct him on which bills to sign and what words to say in order to advance their own agenda.
Right, but last time some of those handlers were more traditional Republicans. This time, it's Nazis all the way down.
Then he couldn't have made empty promises to do it "soon"
"drill baby drill".
Is that what he intends to do at department stores?
If Biden had any balls he black bag Trump and send him off to Guantánamo Bay.
He does not and he will not. Dude is going to grind through the federal court system until the SCOTUS throws out all the charges. Then maybe a NY court will establish some kind of criminal charge, but it'll fizzle out once he's sworn in again.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A spokesperson for President Joe Biden's campaign, Sarafina Chitika, said in a statement in response to Trump's comments that the former president "has shown he’ll do whatever it takes to hold on to power — including excusing and encouraging political violence."
"The American people haven’t forgotten the violent attack at our Capitol on January 6 — they know Trump is too dangerous to be let anywhere near the Oval Office again, and they’ll turn out to protect our democracy and keep Trump out of the White House this November,” Chitika said.
Trump has repeatedly called on Biden to “release” the Jan. 6 defendants and has suggested he would be likely pardon a large number of them if he is elected in November.
He also regularly characterizes the defendants as "hostages," a comparison the White House has called “grotesque.”
Last year, Trump promised that he would pardon a "large portion" of Jan. 6 defendants, adding that he would do it "very early on."
The charges included conspiring to defraud the country and obstructing an official proceeding.
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