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[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 173 points 8 months ago (22 children)

In reality, far from stopping the far right, Germany is implementing a far right agenda. Increase police authority? Check. Scapegoat immigrants and other marginalized groups? Check. Build up the military? Check. Suppress protests and dissenters? Check. Impose austerity, providing the fertile ground for fascists? Check.

By the time the AfD comes to power, they won't have to do anything. The liberals (including socdems and greens) will already have created a fascist society.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 101 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The same is happening to France. As you said, they'll have a field day when (at this point it's not if, it's when) they get to power.
Gotta love neoliberalism...

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

The Netherlands will very likely have a right wing government and will be heading down the same path. Same with Italy, Sweden, Denmark.

With the next European election this year the right wing parties in the European Parliament will gain a lot of traction.

We could be heading down the American path and lose a lot or the progress we made over the last 2 decades.

I will be a father in a couple or hours. Between the right taking to power and accelerating climate change i am just so fucking worried in what kind of world my kids will grow up.

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 50 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Fascists won the Cold War; it just wasn't the nazis. This was unfortunately always an inevitable consequence of that.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 95 points 8 months ago (81 children)

Do liberals have a theory for why fascism is sprouting up around the world?
Because Marxists are like seen-this-one https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Fascism

[–] axont@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Liberals believe all ideologies other than basic western liberalism are based on confusion or ignorance at a personal level. And that's the entirety of where ideology comes from. They don't believe it's rooted in history, conditions, wealth, anything. They see fascism as a complicated misunderstanding that could potentially be cured through a big speech or exposing fascists to the musical Hamilton. They think ideology is pathogen that spreads more easily through who they regard as ignorant and malleable. They believe racism is simply a matter of confusion over human biology that can be instructed away.

They're very similar to conservatives like that. They both think societies are built by IQ scores and being "civilized." Liberals may dress up their goofy theories in fancy academic language, but ultimately they believe the following: "Stupid people are more prone to fascism simply because they're stupid and didn't read enough Margaret Atwood books like me. People are more stupid now because of Tiktok." And that's how liberals would explain why fascism is on the rise again

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And to elaborate on what you said, liberals believe that the "stupid" people are the proles. The uncultured, unwashed and financially unsuccessful masses who deserve every punch the invisible hand of the market throws at them. Liberals simply can't conceive of someone with a fancy education, an expensive suit and good table manners being a fascist.

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[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 80 points 8 months ago

At this dark hour, the SPD turns to President von Hindeburg as a trusted ally

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 67 points 8 months ago (10 children)

the correct answer (which germany will never land on) is to shoot the nazis. it has always been the only solution to a nazi infestation but germany has always found that difficult to swallow.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 57 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If they're not executing nazis in the streets they're not stopping them from assuming power.

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[–] wombat@hexbear.net 55 points 8 months ago (7 children)

stalin shouldn't have stopped at berlin

[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Yes he should have...

but only after circumnavigating the globe and killing all the nazis in between.

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[–] shreddingitlater@hexbear.net 48 points 8 months ago

who-did-this yeah, we're trying to find the guys who did this and give them a spanking

[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Let's see if any Lemmy users are able to correctly identify why this is happening. Bonus points for American-Style ignorance

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 8 months ago

Love to climb up on my high chair with my sippy cup. Looking down on everyone while pretending at intellectual superiority and yet making no actual statement at all.

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