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I think this has negative effects on the threadiverse because it tends to keep user's focus at lemmy.world and in general keeps users to stay in their bubbles

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[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think that’s precisely what it intends to do. There’s interest-specific or country-specific instances that are meant to be your “home”. Lemmy.world is a bad example of it because it’s non-specific and sign ups were open for a long time.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A good local feed on lemmy and/or mastodon its worth its weight in gold.

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, but for me, choosing an instance is a matter of moderation, maybe tech-stack/performance and data privacy (maybe some other stuff too) but not the content hosted ON the instance. I mean, thats the whole idea of the fediverse. You choose the social network structure that you like and travel the fediverse with that. I don't like this overly tribel-thinking.

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So set your landing page to “subscribed” rather than “local” on whatever app you use. Or take it up with the admin or the lemmy.word community if it causes you a problem. I can’t see how it can put you out that much, or cause “overly tribal thinking” tbh.

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It doesn't. I just think it encourages bad network dynamics. But you are right, its only a minor issue

[–] hitagi@ani.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is configurable by the admins. We can choose between "Local" and "All" as the default listing.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

All is inundated with porn. Until they allow instance blocking for users, it's incredibly hard to wade through to find new communities you're interested in. Turning off NSFW in your settings isn't a great solution because many of us still want to look at NSFW topics/discussions/memes.

To clarify, I don't have an issue with porn. I just don't want it on my front page. If I wanted to look at porn, there are plenty of sites dedicated to that already. I'm here for discussion, memes, and cool things.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Very true. As someone who likes the all feed as a decent way to find new communities and just generally see more content, it's been a lot of using the "Block Instance" button, and I have NSFW turned off, there's still an abundance of Lemmynsfw celeb type content. I won't even consider enabling NSFW until we get that functionality.

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's a good point. I hope it will change in the future though. On mastodon it also isn't like that I think

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can just block the NSFW communities you don’t like. There really isn’t that many and much fewer that reach the top of all.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmynsfw.com is where the bulk of them come from. I have probably 100 communities blocked from them and it has helped a little bit, but the sheer volume of communities popping up out of there is incredibly hard to keep up with. It only helps so much.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, I just realised that my “all” feed is probably much different from yours, since there isn’t many users on my small instance, subscribing to hundreds of NSFW communities.

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

This was also complained about in this post: https://www.androidauthority.com/reddit-alternatives-lemmy-3335429/ and probably mirrors experiences of other lemmy-users, especailly new-comers.

One paragraph reads: "Sure, there are categorization tools like Lemmy map that let you look up instances, but the Matrix-like grid will certainly not make things any easier for the average user. Even after logging into Lemmyworld, it took me a while to figure out that the local tab restricts all conversations to discussions on the Lemmyworld server. Switching the tab to all and catching up on discussions happening in the broader multiverse of Reddit alternatives is also possible. Still, there’s no visual identifier that guides you toward it."

This was also my first impression of Lemmy and why I almost dropped it: I thought I could only interact with the communities on my server, which was very frustrating until I saw the filter for "all" and that I could join them just like that. Then it was fine.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because your instance admins have it set that way.

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right right, but especially for the biggest instance I think it would be the right thing to do everything to encourage distributing user-engagement throughout the threadiverse.

[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This also includes changing the default for finding communities from "local" to "all". There it really doesn't make any sense to me.

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can change it in user settings.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Why is the DEFAULT setting for the startpage's feed "Local" and not "All"