this post was submitted on 26 Mar 2024
19 points (100.0% liked)

Comradeship // Freechat

2433 readers
90 users here now

Talk about whatever, respecting the rules established by Lemmygrad. Failing to comply with the rules will grant you a few warnings, insisting on breaking them will grant you a beautiful shiny banwall.

A community for comrades to chat and talk about whatever doesn't fit other communities

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
all 21 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] erik_houdini@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes this was the only way to avoid the 2018 HRC No Fly Zone escalations against Iran. Listen man, the gorilla was cool but you could be in a far worse timeline.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tbh I am don't know anything about the behaviour of gorillas but imagining a child trapped with one fills me with an impending sense of doom

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It has happened before. It’s a complete toss up and not worth the risk.

One incident had a female matriarch care for an injured child, protect them from hostile males, and then lay them at the service door so that zoo staff and paramedics could safely retrieve the child.

Other incidents, primarily by males, have had the gorillas drag the kids around like rag-dolls or beat them to death. Even a probing “love-tap” from a fully grown silverback is usually fatal to a regular child.

Harambe was curious and checking out the child, but that could have changed in an instant for any reason. It would have taken a fraction of a second for him to kill the kid.

[–] OhHiMarx@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I felt the same way at first but you have keep in mind that the gorilla is pretty capable of defending itself

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not against a fully grown child. That’s usually a one sided encounter. Coughing baby vs Hydrogen bomb. Harambe stood no chance. A gorilla would be instantly mauled by a child.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Or you could imagine the gorilla trapped with humans.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

To save a kid? Probably yeah, and I mean, that guy is gonna live the rest of their life knowing that, at least for a time, they were one of the most hated people on the internet. Their family had to go into hiding and delete all their social media due to the harassment. So regardless of if one blames them for it, they have paid for it.

[–] Jennie@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

It is sad but yeah, it was necessary in this case. A tranquilliser can take up to a few minutes to take effect and would not have guaranteed the kid's safety.

The overall issue however is not whether it was justified in this case but the zoos themselves. It is absolutely evil in my eyes to entrap animals in cages and exploit them for entertainment. The entire zoo industry is disgusting and needs to be rid of.

[–] Giyuu@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I don't know if there is any important or necessary conservation of gorillas done by this zoo in particular, but it is as barbaric to have these animals in captivity for amusement as it is barbaric to kidnap people from far away lands and use them as entertainment.

And even if their goal is conservation, there is still a contradiction in having to display the gorillas for human entertainment to make money to support them.

Harambe is a victim of capitalism no matter which way you slice it.

[–] CITRUS@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Harambe apparently means communal labour in Swahili

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: