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A federal judge on Friday sharply questioned the Biden administration’s position that it bears no responsibility for housing and feeding migrant children while they wait in makeshift camps along the U.S-Mexico border.

The Border Patrol does not dispute the conditions at the camps, where migrants wait under open skies or sometimes in tents or structures made of tree branches while short on food and water. The migrants, who crossed the border illegally, are waiting there for Border Patrol agents to arrest and process them. The question is whether they are in legal custody.

That would start a 72-hour limit on how long children can be held and require emergency medical services and guarantees of physical safety, among other things.

U.S. District Judge Dolly Gee said evidence presented by migrant advocacy groups appeared to support the definition of legal custody. “Are they free to leave?” she asked.

“As long as they do not proceed further into the United States,” answered Justice Department attorney Fizza Batool.

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[–] bostonbananarama@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The question is whether they are in legal custody.

Are they unequivocally, without limitation or restriction, free to leave and go elsewhere? If not, they are in custody.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

For me personally, if I came across a child in need with no one to care for it, I would absolutely immediately care for it, because that's what non-psychopathic humans do.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

When have we, US-ian's, not been psychopaths? As a group, that is.

From what I've seen, we're very good at our own (narrow) self-interest.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

the Biden administration’s position that it bears no responsibility for housing and feeding migrant children while they wait in makeshift camps along the U.S-Mexico border.

The Border Patrol does not dispute the conditions at the camps, where migrants wait under open skies or sometimes in tents or structures made of tree branches while short on food and water. The migrants, who crossed the border illegally, are waiting there for Border Patrol agents to arrest and process them. The question is whether they are in legal custody.

Didn't the fucker campaign on opposition to the concentration camps on the border?? And then they're just carrying on and defending it as if it was the new normal rather than several clear violations of human rights! 🤬

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I thought Republicans were supposed to be the "let them die" party?

God I hate that I have to hold my nose and vote for Biden in November in order to stop turning the country into a theocratic dictatorship.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

I'm going to. That's why I said I have to. Trump must be stopped at all costs.

[–] claycle@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you're not holding your nose when voting for someone, you're in trouble. The two go hand-in-hand. Be suspicious of any politician who seems so good you don't feel the urge to hold your nose when you cast your vote for them.

[–] PissChrist@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

In my lifetime the only politician I felt GOOD voting for was bernie sanders. Every other time felt like a hostage situation.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but there are degrees. I didn't think Obama was anywhere near perfect, but I absolutely did not have the level of disgust for him that I do for Biden.

[–] claycle@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I understand the sentiment, but I reserve that disgust for this country - or more specifically for our national parties and their apparatchiks. If these geriatric nincompoops are seriously the best we, as a country, can put forward to lead us, when we are simply voting on degrees of shittiness, we are probably too far gone to recover.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I cannot remove Biden from that equation. He certainly does not have to allow the border patrol to defend its right not to care for children in court. He is the head of the executive branch and can tell the CBP that they are, in fact, required to care for those children.

This is entirely on him.

I'm still going to vote for him, but I am not going to clear him of responsibility when it is something that is absolutely in his control.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

I thought that was just a moral requirement to simply be a decent human being.

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago

What are you talking about? All I said is that I can't enter my neighbor's home. I didn't say word one about preventing someone from leaving my home.