Drives me crazy too - still voting for him, and if you aren't voting for him, then I really don't need to associate with you because I know you don't care about anyone other than yourself.
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you don’t care about anyone other than yourself.
this is a leap of logic
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People downvoting you apparently don't believe anyone on Lemmy is:
- Not a US citizen.
- 17 or younger come November.
- An ex-con in a state where that means you can't vote.
- A current convict unable to vote from prison.
1 and 2 get me the most. Imagine not believing in Italians or children.
I'm a leftist and I don't vote for capitalists or war criminals.
If you're legally allowed to vote in the USA, you almost certainly do vote for capitalists, largely due to fundamental flaws in First Past the Post - you have no way not to. Both abstaining from voting and voting third party are mathematically equivalent to voting for a capitalist, it just makes it messier working out which one you voted for.
Both abstaining from vot8ng and voting third party are mathematically equivalent to voting for a capitalist
no, they're not. calling your storytelling "math" doesn't change its veracity.
Yes, they are. Obstinately refusing to understand the mathematics of voting doesn't change the math.
i've seen explications before, but i'm open to the possibility that you have a novel theory that is testable, falsifiable, and valid.
Dude. I'm not talking about people outside of the US. What is so complicated about that. This is a US centric country conversation. I thought it was implied that the people I was speaking about would be US citizens.
Here, I will clarify with everyone who has a hard time reading between the lines.
IF YOU ARE A US CITIZEN THAT CAN LEGALLY VOTE AND YOU CHOOSE TO USE YOUR VOTE IN A MANNER THAT WILL ULTIMATELY DESTROY MY PERSONAL FREEDOMS AND FURTHER THE SUFFERING OF OTHER PEOPLE FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC, I WOULD RATHER NOT ASSOCIATE WITH YOU.
At this point voting for Biden despite what he's allowed to happen in the middle east is only done with the voters self interest in mind, and don't care about brown people.
MLK remarks on white liberals detailed in Letter from a Birmingham Jail still ring true.
I'm not even going to try to follow the mental gymnastics you took to arrive at your conclusion. Have a good one.
Good for Axelrod. But let’s be honest, The Rock coming out with his reservations earlier this week was much bigger news
He's not wrong.
When potential voters are telling you how bad they have it, the correct response is NOT "Hey, what are you talking about, Jack? Economy is doing great!"
You would think he would have learned from Bill "I feel your pain" Clinton.
Wait... people thought "I feel your pain" was sincere?
The thing is, sincere or not, he didn't write off voters valid concerns. "It's the economy, stupid!" and all that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_the_economy,_stupid
Biden should have a statement along the lines of "Look, I know grocery prices are still up, but at least we're not fighting for toilet paper like we were under Trump."
Which would acknowledge a) yeah, things still aren't where they need to be but also b) we're doing better than 4 years ago.
I think a lot of the problem is that the current messaging is "look how great the economy is doing!" Which doesn't ring true for people who have watched the price of everything but an hour of their work go up.
It's galling to hear that we should be happy that billionaires have more yacht money because they're gouging us.
Yes, exactly this.
What's even worse is that you can look at comparisons of wages and inflation, and you can see that since early 2023, wages have been outpacing inflation. But even though that's true broadly, on a statistical level, that's not the way people are experiencing it. In other words, feelings don't care about the facts. Things are genuinely getting better, and are better now under Biden than they were under Trump, and yet, that's not how people feel.
Thank you for letting me know that my bank account is lying to me and that everything is great.
Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence.
Cool. Tell people who are suffering that everything is great.
To point out the obvious, on any curve there are going to be people above/in front of the curve, and below/behind the curve. In the case of wage growth versus inflation, more people are currently beating inflation in their wage growth than there are people lagging. That's the way statistics works; if nine out of ten people are beating inflation, then yeah, there's going to be one guy that isn't. Just like even when there's record levels of employment, there are always going to be some people that just can't seem to find a job.
You are behind the curve in at least two different ways.
This is shitty messaging, and it's all democrats know how to do.
Ordering people to be happy when they have no reason to be and then being an insulting prick about it when they don't immediately comply is a garbage way to behave.
Yeah, I feel you on this. It's tough though. The accurate answer is "Dude I'm fucking trying, the house is on fire and we got 10% of it put out even while there's a whole gang running around lighting more fires. I'm proud of the 10% but if you got the help to give me to get more I'd fucking love it."
But it's tough to say that and not have it sound impotent. People are weird in how they judge statements. It may feel to him like his two choices are either "hey things are great" (which, they aren't) or else "yeah you're right it sucks" (which is terrible because it undercuts everything significant he's been able to do).