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So, what gun control would have stopped the Kansas City shooting? (www.washingtonexaminer.com)

submitted 9 months ago by wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee to c/conservative@lemm.ee

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[–] PizzaMane@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The whole "what could have stopped X" question is a loaded one. But regardless, the answer is gun control, and U.S. law should learn from modern German law:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/germany-gun-control-laws-a4366996.html

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/london-evening-standard/

It's crazy how even this right wing sources seems to understand that gun control is necessary and a requirement for low gun death rates, given that they admit right at the begging of the article that they have amongst the lowest death rates out there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Total:

Germany: 1.04/capita

United States: 12.21/capita

Homicide only:

Germany: 0.06/capita

United States: 4.46/capita

If more guns & lax gun laws made us safe, we would should expect to see the opposite. Yet we don't, because anybody with half a brain understands that a tool whose purpose is to kill as easily as possible will make killing easier when it is around untrained people/people with insufficient reason to own it/people who store them poorly.

That's a 75x smaller gun homicide rate. We aren't going to get that small of a rate without gun control.

Inb4 somebody calls me a troll despite putting effort into this: fuck off

[–] ConMod@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Mate, here's a great example of you intentionally pissing everyone off. Look at how much effort you put into the comment, you got sources and everything. But you're still managed to piss everyone off, while maintaining a thin facade of civility. We can see past it at this point, you aren't here to discuss or anything, just to troll.

A try-hard troll is still a troll.

I'm still going to let peepin make the final decision, but I fully recommend a ban.

[–] PizzaMane@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Mate, here’s a great example of you intentionally pissing everyone off.

... by simply existing evidently.

But you’re still managed to piss everyone off, while maintaining a thin facade of civility.

If bringing up straight facts is enough to piss people off, then you guys are the problem, not me or the facts.

you aren’t here to discuss or anything

Then why the fuck would I be putting in the tiniest bit of effort? Trolls don't put effort in.

[–] ConMod@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You made a false assumption, and went all in on sources that depend on that assumption.

[–] PizzaMane@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

What are you even talking about?
Are you going to address what I said?

[–] ConMod@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

You know what, no, I'm not. I'm going to turn off my computer, and go drink a couple more beers and do literally anything but get on lemmy tonight.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Except for that last line, I can't in good conscience ban Pizzaman. As long as he brings the arguments, it's not something I'll do. After all, dissent is allowed in the comments.

And Winter and I just had a discussion about gun laws that stemmed from Pizzaman's post. So, there's no reason why people can't agree or disagree on the substance and entirely ignore a thin façade of civility if that's what you really think it is.

[–] ConMod@lemm.ee -2 points 8 months ago

Thats fair, and thats exactly why I let you make the decision.