TheLepidopterists

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Yeah, just it felt like deja vu listening to it. It's like they used a time machine to read this thread before recording their intro.

Talk about going to extremes.

Three minutes before this post you said that since people here disagree with you, you're going to kill yourself.

Please, first of all, if that wasn't an empty threat, don't do that over Hexbear.

But also please get some perspective here.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean banning it like it was what, only a decade ago? That's clearly the best solution. Friendly wagers over the local game don't cause a mass transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich, FanDuel does

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Oh my God then they started talking about self-identified socialists now having a libertarian streak and thinking restrictions on people's actions by a Nanny State are bad.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Lmao, I just started listening to this and they immediately compare it to legalizing heroin and giving control of the heroin industry to tobacco companies, with the implication that that would obviously be incredibly bad.

Turns out half the people in this thread think that that's a great idea actually.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I don't need a libertarian to tell me what a good communist would do.

See my previous comment

I don't follow. Are you saying that if people understand the dangers of overdosing they'll quit doing it? Because if so I think you're ignoring the impaired judgement.

And why were they doing this? Because the drugs were available or because it was profitable?

The drugs are available because they're profitable. Giving them to anyone who asks for free won't make them safer.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

One: cigarettes should be banned Two: I'm ambivalent about alcohol because it's been part of human culture basically since human culture has existed, it feels almost like cultural erasure to ban it- nonetheless alcoholism needs to be treated more seriously in this country, there is almost no treatment available and the barrier to purchase is non-existent.

Three: alcohol is clearly different because Smirnoff doesn't make deadly poisonous bad batches of vodka on the regular, and if you ban it outright ,then people making it in their bathtubs will.

Small scale, illegal but irrepressible sports betting between friends is less harmful, small scale, illegal but irrepressible alcohol production is incredibly dangerous.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Aside from causing permanent brain damage?

Because they impair your judgement and kill you if you take too much which you could easily do do if your judgement is impaired?

Also, yes it fucking is because of the availability. The reason it became a massive epidemic is that every other doctor in the country became a drug dealer for dangerous recreational drugs.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (6 children)

But just because some people become addicted to a thing, and a few people ruin their lives over the thing,

It's not a few we're talking about the systemic robbery of the working class by Draft Kings and their ilk

doesn't mean the government should force all of us to avoid the thing.

ancap-good

For every addict or idiot who blows up their account and has to sell their home, there's millions of people who are enjoying gambling for what it is supposed to be: entertainment.

Millions!? Are you fucking kidding me, where did this ratio come from?

There's NO ethical consumption under Capitalism! Why would I single out one type of consumption when the whole damn system is rotten?

Capitalism is bad everywhere so nothing is worse than anything else. I can actually do whatever the fuck I want. Since jaywalking is also a crime it makes no sense to jail someone longer for murder. Everything is flat! Tomatoes and the fucking Mafia are equal! I'm on a smart phone so I'm as bad as the goddamn Sackler family who should be allowed to keep up their drug operation because everything is equally bad!

"nanny" state

you sound like my racist uncle

baffles me that as leftists

"leftist" is a wobbly meaningless word that lets radlibs pretend to be revolutionary. Hexbear is a communist community. Communist communist communist. I'm a commie.

we claim to want to liberate the masses, and then turn around and get very paternal about a few specific things like gambling, drugs, etc.

I'm extremely pro laws and rules and restrictions if they're in the interest of the working class. Banning sports betting apps is clearly in the interest of the working class.

I would think us of all people would understand wanting to be left alone! I want to be left alone! I want a state that leaves people alone!

I don't share your sentiment and think you should change your display name to Ron Paul.

Maybe a state where the people have complete control will be different, but I do NOT ever want to allow unelected bureaucrats to have power over my body, my family, and my friends' lives the way the U.S. has control over those right now.

Did one of your friends or family members found DraftKings or something?

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (7 children)

In the United States we have an opioid epidemic fueled by quality controlled, regulated drugs given out by medical professionals in spite of generally widespread knowledge that opioids are dangerous and addictive.

I think that a lot of people say stuff like what you're claiming, but I don't really buy it.

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