ToastedPlanet

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds clever, but it's still a rape threat, so don't.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Namely, even though they were all, broadly speaking, Christians

The majority of the founders were deists.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Founding-Fathers-Deism-and-Christianity-1272214

Although orthodox Christians participated at every stage of the new republic, Deism influenced a majority of the Founders. The movement opposed barriers to moral improvement and to social justice. It stood for rational inquiry, for skepticism about dogma and mystery, and for religious toleration. Many of its adherents advocated universal education, freedom of the press, and separation of church and state. If the nation owes much to the Judeo-Christian tradition, it is also indebted to Deism, a movement of reason and equality that influenced the Founding Fathers to embrace liberal political ideals remarkable for their time.

it was only a matter of time before someone whose religion was not agreeable to take over and start doing things that you don’t like

Not just a disagreeable religion, but any religion.

https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/establishment-clause-separation-of-church-and-state/

Both Jefferson and fellow Virginian James Madison felt that state support for a particular religion or for any religion was improper. They argued that compelling citizens to support through taxation a faith they did not follow violated their natural right to religious liberty. The two were aided in their fight for disestablishment by the Baptists, Presbyterians, Quakers, and other “dissenting” faiths of Anglican Virginia.

The christo-fascist MAGA movement is not consistent with the origins of our nation and the Constitution despite originalists claims to the contrary. We are not a christian nation, but a secular nation. All religions, including Christianity, were deemed dangerous to mix with the government.

I'm sure you didn't mean anything by it in your argument, but these misconceptions are what the MAGA movement will use to push christian nationalism on all of us and to exclude people based on their faith or lack of faith.

Harris promised to do everything in her power to end the war in Gaza.

“This year has been difficult, given the scale of death and destruction in Gaza and given the civilian casualties and displacement in Lebanon, it is devastating. And as president, I will do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza, to bring home the hostages, end the suffering in Gaza, ensure Israel is secure, and ensure the Palestinian people can realise their right to dignity, freedom, security and self-determination,” Harris said to applause during a rally in East Lansing city of Michigan, home to 200,000 Arab Americans.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/4/harris-says-will-end-gaza-war-in-final-election-appeal-to-arab-americans

That's where cult deprogramming comes into play. There are people who specialize in getting people out of that kind of mindset your argument describes. The rest of us need to do our part and educate, even if it doesn't always have the impact we hope in the moment.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 15 hours ago

They didn't show the entire tweet chain. Murphy starts off saying we should abandon neoliberalism which is good. But then finished by uncritically supporting men's rights, abandoning social issues, and abandoning action on climate change.

He's calling for Democrats to move to the right. The big tent he's pitching is fascism. A true populist movement that champions socialism and progressive causes can bring people together while also championing these issues.

That sucks. We need systemic change to our police departments.

How about a seminar on tariffs though.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I guess I forgot some people knew what to expect from a second Trump term and would plan accordingly. It would have been nice if this guy had sat these people down and had this talk before the election.

At best this is confusing cycling the fascist drain as a repeating pattern. At worst it is apathy masquerading as insight. Fascists kill people in death camps and don't hold democratic elections. We've held on this long because we've been paddling against the current. Millions of people stopped paddling this election. Now we're hoping fascist incompetence clogs the drain long enough for us to get away.

We're going to be lucky to get another election. If we still have a democracy the effects of this next Trump term will outlive the next four years.

Trump got three justices onto the Supreme Court in his first term. These aren't going to go in and out of power. They are going to sit there until they die. Trump could get another three Supreme Court nominations confirmed in this next term. Their influence is going to shape this country for thirty years or more.

He promised to jail his political opponents. The Democratic Party might not exist in four years and if does it will probably have shifted to the right. They won't be a moderate challenger in any sense.

An oligarchy of billionaires has rallied around Trump as dictator. Project 2025 is going to give Trump an actionable agenda and an army of loyalists in government positions to execute it for him. Republicans control the Senate and are on track to take the House. The Republicans want to shape this country for decades to come.

All of this turns the discourse around climate change on it's head. Our models of what could happen are typically based on climate admissions staying the same or with efforts to mitigate them. Now we have an incoming administration who are going to pollute as much as possible. That's not a repeating pattern. It's a self-destructive process that ends with billionaires living in their apocalypse bunkers and the rest of us dead.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Wow, the turn around time on that was fast.

It's because the Overton window is shifted to the right in the US.

If the Democrats were a better tool, that would be great. They're neoliberals, they don't listen to anyone. Socialists have been able to get into their primaries. One day we might even get one of them elected as the nominee. But we need to keep our democracy long enough to do that. And there's a good chance we just screwed that up.

Harris called for a ceasefire multiple times and promised to do everything in her power to end the war in Gaza. Trump said Israel needed to finish the job. Harris was the correct choice to help the Palestinians.

I saw you were stuck parroting propaganda and still are, so I decide to try to reach you. Me pointing this out to you has clearly been upsetting. Who ever got you hooked on this wanted to debilitate you so you would harm your own interests and the causes that you care about. Hopefully you've been able to tell that I don't think particularly highly of the Democrats. I see how they are useful and point that out to people. You seem unable to stop trying to sink Harris' campaign. She lost. It's done. If we're lucky we will still have a two party system. In the event Democrats still exist in some capacity, consider using them to advance your goals, as opposed to spread propaganda about the Democrats at the expense of your goals.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The Democrats aren't going to become the party you think you deserve. But they are the party we can use to achieve our goals. If we fail to leverage them effectively that's on us. Spreading this propaganda is self-defeating. It's an exercise in shooting yourself in the foot. The Democratic Party is what we have to move the needle to the left. If we insist on casting them in the most unfavorable light possible to everyone, we shouldn't be surprised when no one wants to vote for them and they lose. Your time would be better spent targeting the Republicans with this stuff considering they are the people who want to kill us.

Obviously the Democrats would do better if they adopted a populist message. We can't control the Democratic Party. But we can influence the rhetoric around how people view their vote. If we make the Democrats look like fascists who must be protested out of a moral duty, then we've done the Republicans a favor. If we point out the Democratic Party are a useful way to advance progressive and socialist causes over time then we've done leftists a favor. Let's do the latter.

Of course we'll see what happens next year with this. Seems like the party could die if it's leadership are all arrested. If it doesn't, let's use the Democrats to our advantage. edit: typo

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THE BEES RULE (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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[Alt-text] The bees celebrate their victory over divided social deduction players. Unite for victory!

There is likely to be domestic terrorism following this election no matter who wins. Organizing is more powerful than any gun. Get to know the people around you. Having people you can call in an emergency is essential. If you're going to the polls, go with friends. edit: typo

Also, Vote Blue!

thumbnail source for your enjoyment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOnsl2RdKSc

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Utility Rules! (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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[Alt-text] Spongebob and Patrick work out their strategy with a utility based analysis.

We tend to assume that the means accomplish the ends, but that's not necessarily the case. The trolley problem never looks at where the trolley is going, just how it gets there. But if the way we want to get there doesn't actually go to the destination we want, then it's not a solution. Hope this helps. =D

edit: trolley is spelled with an e

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OL' RULEiABLE (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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[Alt-Text] Spongebob reminds us the tried and true way to get Fascists' goats, is to call them weird. Their fragile egos simply can't take it.

I don't know who needs to see this. Trump has explicitly identified himself as a fascist at this point. Upsetting fascists' fragile egos is the best rhetorical way to get at them. In short, call them weird.

The DNC consultants are trying their hardest to sink Kamala's and Walz's campaign. Get this message in an email or a fax or a billboard to as many people as we can. We need to hit Trump where it hurts in these last few days to get him off balance. edit: typo

Call him weird, point out how people keep leaving his rallies early, point out his supporters don't even like him and are just using him. Stuff that can only bother a malignant narcissist like Trump.

Also, Vote!

https://vote.gov/

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