VeganicTankie

Why bother making startups when I can just invest in shares&crypto and make my usual 1-2% per year? Capitalism "breeds innovation" but most startups are really just "make toilet paper a subscription" or "buy from China/USA/Germany and resell". There are few startups based on actual scientific advancements.

Yes, I'm asking about investing while I'm broke

EDIT: 5% was an exaggeration

Arguing with leftists on reddit is weird. They hate us tankies for loving AES, they hate all successful socialist states. Why do they deny their ideologies (anarchism, demsoc) failed miserably? Ok, maybe we the Soviets had to leave Makhnovites alone. Would they stand up to Western imperialists? No way

Demsoc? The moment socialists win elections, your "democracy" disappears faster than I drink my vodka. Allende was violently toppled by Augusto.

Long live Lenin, long live the Soviet motherland!

Most humans aren't vegan for three reasons:

1. Material conditions. As a child, I saw children being kind to stray cats and dogs by feeding them. From what my parents said, they saw kids abusing stray animals and birds. So with better material conditions, people's treatment of animals changes.

2. Social norms. For men, being vegan is sometimes a "feminine" thing. For women, refusing to cook carnist food for your husband is unwelcome (at best) and dangerous (at worst).

3. Consumerism. You're conditioned to eat burgers, you're brainwashed to believe you need meat, your TV series never show vegans in good light (haha their food is boring XDDDD). The animal-industrial complex funds disinformation think tanks, assassinations, lobbyists to keep their business afloat.

Is there "natural" speciesism? No idea.

If humans are heartless by nature, then they must at least reduce animal ag to simply not destroy our planet and public health. They don't do that. To me it looks like animal ag propaganda is not only hostile to anti-speciesism, but to any reforms. Even environmentalists can't stop animal ag. So maybe there is hope to make the world vegan, after the world become socialist?

Lots of carnists pretend to be socially progressive, but eating meat is as bad as racism or transphobia. So you're not socially progressive if you eat meat (or dairy, or eggs). We know that the proletariat is very conservative these days, we must convince them to fight for socialism. For that, all successful movements like the Bolsheviks allowed socially conservative folk to join. No revolution succeeded without your woodworker Ivan and farmer Vladimir, who still have reactionary ideas. These ideas will disappear. So we should ok carnist leftists until capitalism is dead, unless they are actively counterrevolutionary.

A lot of leftists are marxist-leninist, anti-sexist, LGBT+ and anti-racist. BUT, they'll tell you the dumbest right-wing arguments to justify eating animals. I get that people aren't ideal, but when you are the urban middle class of the West, there's no excuse to not be vegan. Absolutely, no, excuse, to, murder, animals. Historical materialism lets me ok people from poor/oppressed backgrounds being carnist. I would never denounce a carnist in Gaza, but the Westerners have no any excuses to abuse animals.

I get that some people just have no will, I know people can be addicted. But at least DON'T BE A JERK to vegans. Some "leftists" post propaganda about veganism like YT videos that are literally funded by oil corporations. Some "leftists" are so toxic I'd rather have a conservative as my roommate than them.

The "leftists" lie all the time. Meat, dairy, eggs and honey are luxury products available mosty to those in the imperial core. The poor countries like India, Nigeria, Uganda and North Korea eat diets closest to veganism BECAUSE plant foods are the cheapest foods, not carnist subsidized McFood.

Dealing with leftists, especially online, is draining to me. How can I be productive as a leftist and not go insane? How can I cooperate with carnists to achieve the revolution? I see no easy solution here