WraithGear

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[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

The fact it’s a three pack is just.. chefs kiss

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (9 children)

An armed protest is about checking police involvement more-so then attacking the agencies. Usually an insurgency would attack infrastructure.

Let me put it this way, what wars has the US won against an insurgency on their home turf? And consider that these past wars were waged with an uncontested military industrial complex, technological advantage, uninterruptible supply lines, a functionally infinite budget, the vast resources of one of the largest countries in the world, a US hegemony and control over all markets. Complete intelligence dominance from the sea, land, air and space.

Then factor that the us has the single most armed citizenry of any nation on the planet by an unreasonable degree, a volunteer military, and the infrastructure to wage a war that is in the open protected only by societal contract and the threat of incarceration…

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I keep seeing that study:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240678278_Why_Civil_Resistance_Works_The_Strategic_Logic_of_Nonviolent_Conflict

From what I can tell, it works backwards from a conclusion the authors already held. They excluded peaceful events that weren’t “noteworthy,” labeled protests as violent if police instigated violence, and narrowly defined success windows for violent movements while crediting peaceful ones for regime collapses that likely would have happened anyway.

Since the study was published, a wave of high-profile failures—the Arab Spring, Occupy Wall Street, BLM, etc.—has shown that the effectiveness of nonviolence has drastically diminished. Even the study’s lead author has acknowledged that modern authoritarian regimes now use digital surveillance and media control to neutralize peaceful dissent.

The study also ignores the reality that mixed-strategy movements—where one faction remains peaceful while another escalates—are often more successful, yet it frames nonviolence as the only legitimate or effective tactic.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Eeehh, so yes, after basic i did not march anywhere really. And you do need to brush up on it to keep in the swing of things…. But honestly, you know your unit is going to march in a parade months in advance, and for better or worse are going to represent the armed forces, you schedule mandatory training time.

Is it wasteful? Arguably under normal circumstances, definitely under this circumstance.

So i can only conclude that either they did not care, or do care a lot, or someone who was supposed to plan this fucked up and they just grabbed people.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Great now we get to argue what nothing and something is…

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

And i don’t think that The no kings protest succeeded in that goal. I went and was a part of it, and i am very frustrated with its reporting. And those who did not go, it was just another protest. And people are talking more about two lawmakers in Minnesota killed by a no king protestor.

Yes i know that’s spin, but that’s what was talked about. And trumps parade was given more time over all. Its just frustrating as fuck

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I would say that worrying that the protest appears non violent is a waste of time. If the protestors refuse to get violent to lend sympathy for the boot, then violence can be manufactured. It happens alot in protesting, and the whole shtick of the non violent protest is it REQUIRES media buy in. If the media is captured by oligarchs for example then the message will be drowned out or perverted. Even a neutral reading of “this protest happened, it has 1 billion people in it, now to John for the weather” the protest will fail.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Are you talking about the report or ….

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Armed protestors

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

And that pushing apparently includes activities the report defines as “nonviolent”

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

So then by any reasonable metric it was a failure. Just that the failure was at the leadership level and had zero chance at success because of that no matter what happened

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Well… ok… then let’s do the “NONVIOLENT” protests and stop doing these sit ins.

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