Sure, and I'm not claiming otherwise.
Zozano
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We're arguing about semantics, of course I'm going to argue about the textbook definition.
I'm not denying tradition has often had a deeper meaning behind it which has resulted in good outcomes.
All I've been saying this entire time is that as far as REASONS go, tradition IS the least valid.
If you choose to conflate "good reason" with "good outcome", go argue with a dictionary.
I think the problem here is you've assumed my usage of "good" and "bad" are referring to the net reduction / increase of suffering.
I've been using the term "worst" as synonymous with "least valid". So yes, within my context, good reason implicitly follows the form A->B.
Seriously, think about it for a moment. without knowing whether the OUTCOME is good or bad, what is a good REASON?
If you found your friend bleeding out, slipping in and out of consciousness, life and death situation, and a cop chases you all the way to the hospital, do you think the cop is going to think you have a good REASON for speeding?
Tradition is the least valid reason (in terms of epistemology) for doing anything.
Saying "because" is just straight up invalid.
alternatively:
There are better reasons for all those things.
"Because the decorating the Christmas tree is fun and it looks pretty"
"Because it's nice for me to give and receive gifts"
"Because Turkey tastes good"
As another commenter replied to you, you're conflating bad outcomes with good reasons.
"To watch the world burn" is still a better reason, even if the outcome is the same, or worse.
if you really want to play this game:
- that's how it is.
- why is that how it is?
- because that's how it is.
- why is it because that's how it is?
You're in the same boat.
Epistemologically, "that's how it is" is too declarative for that which we don't know.
Being asked an endless series of questions for me is going to end with "I don't know".
I'm not convinced this is a valid reason. It's really just another way of saying "because I want to", which is still a better than tradition.
But we, the people are the evolutionary filter of traditions. We decide which ones are the fit ones, which ones of the ones we inherited will we pass down and which to banish into history.
Tradition is the lowest common denominator, and relying on our collective filter for social evolution is the least efficient metric by which to evaluate productive change; tradition is the worst reason.
Just give me one example where tradition is not the worst reason for doing anything (I know you did already but I am convinced tradition is still a worse reason that sadistic pleasure, both as a valid justification and in terms of net-negative suffering outcomes).
Who the fuck downvoted this.
Go back to the dark ages ya dumb fuck.
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You're literally too stupid to argue with, I'm not wasting my time even reading this shit.