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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

AFAIR NATO countries haven't ever fielded TCMBs with nuclear warheads on mobile land platforms due to the risk

There was Pershing Ia and Pershing II which had nuclear warheads, but they are no longer in service. They were stationed in Europe, West Germany in particular had a lot of mobile sites, mounted on MAN M1001 vehicles. Pershing II was a particularly scary missile as it had a MaRV (Maneuverable Re-entry Vehicle) back in the 1980s. It's basically the father of all modern tactical ballistic missiles. No air defence system from that time was intercepting that. Even the most sophisticated modern missile defence systems, such as Arrow 2 and Arrow 3 in Israel, still struggle to intercept MaRVs, as shown by Iran's October 1st retaliatory strike.

The reason we haven't seen this after 1991, and why the US and Russia have not focused much on short, medium and intermediate range ballistic missiles since then, is due to the INF treaty. However, the US withdrew from this treaty during 2018 and 2019.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 39 points 8 months ago

Transfer satellite control to some group that is hostile to the US

Russia already has reportedly shared satellite data/imagery with Ansar Allah/The Houthis before, first giving it to Iran, who passed it on to them.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

The only F-35s with Air Launched Ballistic Missiles (ALBMs) are the Israeli F-35s with the ROCKS missile, the US F-35s have the AGM-158 JASSM and LRASM cruise missiles as standoff weapons, and cannot carry them in the internal weapons bays, and only on external pylons. Realistically, one F-35 can only carry 2 AGM-158s (it has only been pictured carrying two at a time) or ROCKs missiles at a time on external pylons, given that these are large heavy missiles with a large aerodynamic footprint. So that's 3 F-35s for six missiles. The smaller SPEAR 3 cruise missiles, designed to be carried internally, are still in development, and are much smaller weapons, more similar to 100kg glide bombs than large cruise or ballistic missiles.

Realistically, a stationary air defence system versus modern SEAD/DEAD tactics is a sitting duck, eventually it will be taken out, the aircraft always have the advantage. The key to survivability for air defence is to be mobile, as shown by the Serbs.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago

Yeah I saw the MoD statement and added it to the initial post. Apparent footage shows a large explosion though, could be a secondary explosion from debris, or a direct hit.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 52 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

No modern air defence or missile defence system in the world is able to deal with modern day ballistic missiles when fired at a large enough volume, with quasi ballistic manouvers (in the case of ATACMS and Iskander-M) and Maneuverable Re-entry Vehicles (MaRVs) capable of performing skip and glide trajectories/pull up manoeuvres and pseudo random evasive maneuvers, in the case of modern Iranian missiles, such as the Kheibar Shekan series, and Fattah-1. We've seen Patriot PAC-3 systems been destroyed by Iskanders and Kinzhals, and S-300 and S-400 systems been destroyed by ROCKS (in Iran) and ATACMS.

Modern ballistic missiles (both air launched and ground launched) travel faster than ever inside the earth's atmosphere, are capable of high accuracy even in GPS denied environments (in the case of US systems with highly accurate inertial guidance, Israeli systems with anti radiation seekers, and short range Iranian systems with EO seekers), and can manouver in non ballistic ways. It's just going to get even worse for air defence once hypersonic glide vehicles (HGVs) enter service. India just tested an Anti Ship HGV a few days ago.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Iran could also get the bomb, and/or North Korea could get a miniaturised version of the bomb for use in their Short Range Ballistic Missiles (SRBMs) and for MIRV warheads for their new ICBM with over 15 000km range.

I think Ansar Allah/The Houthis getting advanced anti ship supersonic cruise missiles is the most likely option, Hezbollah got 12 of them at one stage.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This has been part of Zelensky's five and ten point plans for a while. He really is that delusional.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As I learnt a long time ago, if you don't laugh, you'll cry.

Also technicallyblinken-pain did both the theory and praxis, he wrote a book about bombing Russian oil and gas pipelines, and then he actually did it with regards to Nordstream.

I am also very worried to be honest.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 50 points 8 months ago (2 children)

strangelove-wow and posadas wrote the theory, biden-supervised and zelensky-pain do the praxis.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

When Waterkloof Air Force Base and Makhado Air Force Base eventually get nuked during the eventual nuclear exchange, I'm going to enjoy seeing the nuclear hellfire live before my painful and hellish death. Maybe I'll just watch up close from the hillsides so I'll die instantly, seems like the best way to go.

nukeposadas

In all seriousness though, this is very worrying.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 64 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (34 children)

Ukraine just hit a military installation in Bryansk with ATACMS missiles in the early hours of this morning, five intercepted but one got through according to the Russian MOD. Putin has also signed Russia's updated nuclear doctrine into law, allowing for a nuclear response to a large scale non nuclear attack by a non nuclear state, aided by a nuclear state.

Russian MoD statement:

Translation of Russian MoD statement

  • Tonight at 3.25 a.m. the enemy struck a facility on the territory of the Bryansk region with six ballistic missiles.

  • According to confirmed information, American-made ATACMS operational-tactical ballistic missiles were used.

  • As a result of an anti-missile battle by S-400 SAMs and Pantsir SAMs, five missiles were shot down and one was damaged.

  • Its fragments fell on the technical territory of a military facility in the Bryansk region, causing a fire, which was promptly extinguished.

  • There were no casualties or damage.

Russian Ministry of Defence

The statement appears in contradiction with the latest video from the area, showing a clear explosion. It seems as if the damaged missile got through for a direct hit. Or there were some secondary explosions from debris. Either way, there is clear damage done should the footage be legitimate.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oom Cyril Ramaphosa lmao. Looks like a movie poster for a knockoff action film.

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