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TIL! Yep, that gives the EU exactly what's needed to suspend them from Schengen.

So I just answered my own question. I was confused by this,

If those crossing claim asylum, the RCMP cannot send them back to the United States.

Because I thought the Safe Third Country Agreement allowed them to be sent back with no right to be heard for asylum (unless they stuck in and evaded detection for 14 days).

However, according to https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/safe-third-country-agreement-expansion-causes-asylum-seekers-explore-new-routes

Asylum seekers are arriving at airports with tourist visas and petitioning for asylum at immigration offices after their arrival. The number of asylum applications made at airports in Montreal and Toronto have tripled since the beginning of 2023.
Overall, the expansion decreased the flow of asylum seekers coming from the United States directly but has not worked to decrease the flow of asylum seekers into Canada.

So I guess to get into Canada they'd leave the US and fly in from another country somehow.

Hmm. Could they legally kick Hungary out of Schengen without its approval?

Agreements outside of the EU framework - now that is indeed a clever workaround. I seem to recall similar maneuvers during the Greek financial crisis when the UK wouldn't agree to things.

What I fear is that he's technically right - because he'll use Hungary's position as an EU member to tear up and otherwise interfere with EU attempts to fund Ukraine (something he's not able to do to the US) and do it well enough that Ukraine's position in it's war of self-defense is seriously compromised.

It really and truly sucks, but, I mean, unfortunately, it's not like they're not wrong....

The best we can hope for is that Europe can unify over this and together with the Commonwealth of Nations, they'll be strong enough to keep up the good fight. But it's definitely a major blow.

I guess they back either other up. Like archive.is is able to take archives from archive.org but the saved page reflects the original URL and the original archiving time from the wayback machine (though it also notes the URL used from wayback itself plus the time they got archived it from wayback).

Ah, that makes sense. So the FediDB info seems to be wrong - I wonder if they got confused by cloudflare as per the other comment in https://feddit.org/post/4529920/2993842 ?

Also, is there a way to let them know to update it? I guess someone could report an issue on github...

That confuses me too. I've never really understood that. Likewise, /m/news is for US news while world news goes into /m/world and US news isn't allowed.

Maybe that's another reason why folks thing it's US-based - because the magazines are clearly so US oriented. But I'm not sure how that happened.

On the brain bin for example it's PoliticsUSA - https://thebrainbin.org/m/PoliticsUSA

The other thing is that I recall that kbin.social exploded and got a huge chuck of the exodus - but now that it's been effectively dead for half a year, those users mostly seem to have vanished.

A fraction clearly did migrate to other mbin and lemmy instances. It seems like the rest did not return to spez's site from what I'm hearing ("all the posts I'm seeing there are complaining that only bots are active here") but I'm not sure where they went. But for example, one person I was following seems to have dropped off entirely from the fediverse and all social media.

Why did you think lemmy.world was US based? It's fully European.

But that's probably it - folks assume the instance that's for the whole world is the US-based one and don't feel the need to make another major US-based one.

Came here to say that. I wasn't covered by GDPR under spez's site - but luckily their policies treated me like I was anyways.

I moved to kbin.social - which was probably the 2nd largest after lemmy.world. Also, it was Polish.

What I liked about that was - as per my understanding - since these are hosted in the EU, the GDPR applies to my data here even if I'm not the EU myself and am not an EU citizen.

With a tld ending like .world you'd think it's for the whole world, not just europe (.eu) or a specific country.

feddit.org itself is a bit of a curiosity since the .org doesn't make it obvious that it is German - but someone posted the full story of how feddit.de fell apart and feddit.org became the successor.