chobeat

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[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Pretty much anywhere outside the USA, the communication of tech workers unionizing is pretty much absent and expecially news about it. This is a big deal, but it doesn't say much about the actual penetration of unions in a given sector. It's a complex topic, but I explain it with the fact that the topic is pretty much uninteresting, unless it's a well-known brand is unionizing. Since most famous tech companies are American, there's enough mass of news there to actually push media outlets to cover news.

In Italy, where there are very few "well-known" IT companies, the topic is completely absent, to the point where IT union organizers from a city don't know about big wins by other IT unions organizers from another city. Nonetheless the narrative is not the thing, and there can be big impacts that become visible to the general public only after sociological studies.

So, long-story short, the fact you never heard about SITT doesn't say much about its effectiveness, just about their ability to communicate.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Are you aware that Romanian IT sector has the highest rate of unionization of any IT sector in the world? SITT is a case study studied all over the world. https://transform-network.net/blog/interview/the-romanian-it-workers-labour-union-showed-that-everyone-can/

It might not be the sexiest, most modern radical union, but it is a case of success with numbers to show. Maybe you can start from there.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 45 points 4 months ago (21 children)

most cursed take of the day. This is a terrible system that turns workers in self-entrepreneurs, where most struggle and a few get a lot of money.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago (9 children)

where do you live? The tech workers movement is reaching pretty much everywhere there's tech production.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 70 points 4 months ago (12 children)

luck is not gonna help. Only action and organizing can save us. Join a union too.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

yey, more friends to chat with.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

In Germany a lot of people can afford a mortgage, but they choose not to buy. It's in part culture and fear of commitment, in part a need for high mobility within the country.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's no formal membership but yeah, I've been involved in it for 6 years. It depends a lot on the chapter you're in, so some are more oriented towards community building and socializing, some others are more focused on direct organizing support or political stuff. In each country the legal framework, the political landscape, and the culture are different, so chapters end up looking very different from each other.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Join Tech Workers Coalition

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago

All software should be released as a common good that cannot be captured by corporations. Otherwise it's just free labor for Amazon, Google and Facebook

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Well, Obsidian, Notion, Anytype, Affine can give you a hint of possible directions in this transition. While they still retain document-oriented features, like the concept of Page, they also try to really go for a much richer experience that does away with the limitations inherited from paper-based solutions. Double-linking, composability, fractal properties of pages and nesting (especially in Notion and Anytype), block-based UI, seamless integration of text, databases, and embeds, heavy use of transclusion and other stuff like that.

I would say this alternative system is far from cohesive and mature, but it's clear some software is emancipating itself from whatever Onlyoffice represents.

Maybe you would find this video interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXiQlLHuK7g

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I am sure that some people wouldn’t like the fact that the interface runs as a webapp, or use of Java, but it’s strange to me that it’s not usually even in the conversation.

A point about conversations, rather than the software itself. I think it's not really at the forefront of the discussion because this kind of software caters kinda to "legacy" organizational environments that want a 1 to 1 replacement for Google Docs or Microsoft 365, which is not the sexiest problem. In the community of adopters of NextCloud (poor souls...) the discussion between onlyoffice and collabora, together with their integration with NC, is a quite common topic but again, most of these deal with orgs and not individual adoption and I would say that's a very distinct crowd from most "hackerinos" who populate the FOSS online communities.

That said, a lot of the discourse is now focused on moving away entirely from document-based (and even document-oriented) software, because there's a shared understanding that the problem is in the approach itself, and what IBM, Apple and Microsoft considered a reasonable way to handle information in the '80s, is not necessarily the best way now.

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