I had a shower thought the other day that if more CEOs were shot dead, there'd probably be less Return to Office.
People are sometimes like "oh but violence is bad!" but ignore all the casual harms inflicted on people by capitalism and friends.
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They also ignore all the freedom of the lower classes which was won through violence against the upper class.
And let's not forget all the freedoms that were granted because we asked nicely while tugging our forelocks.
Those are easy to remember because there are none.
When the people in charge refuse to listen, the only tool left is violence.
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They also ignore literally all of human history when they say shit like that. Hell even the civil rights movement only worked because of Malcolm X's threat of violence.
Malcolm X was a fringe figure: the NOI got lots of press but didn't really do all that much besides indulging in infighting and encouraging local Black businesses. Their approach to politics was separatism. H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael, the Panthers, and many others were more closely involved in direct action.
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Nah CEOs will mandate RTO for workers while they themselves stay remote.
They can be killed in their homes, too.
So no change?
The (attitude) Adjuster goes blam.
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I’m in management now but I say go get ‘em please.
most management I would assume would be with the workers. If your not c suite your nothing.
You'd think that, but a depressingly large percent of middle managers identify more with the bosses than with the people doing real work. They believe that if they toe the line and work hard at enabling the sociopaths, they might eventually get the promised invisible handjob.
Interestingly, I've known more senior managers than middle managers who are radical. I'm one, and I've known many others. I think that those who really understand how the system works end up advancing, but they're also the ones with no illusions about how the sausage is made.
Capitalism has made me moderately rich (and I started from near-destitution), but that doesn't mean I am unaware of its many toxic side effects. You have to live within the system that exists. People who don't know how to do anything make shitty revolutionaries and incompetent reformers.
yeah I get that. Im unemployed currently but I know that my rate is much higher than the large majority of folks so I feel kinda guilty in a way but at the same time I have a sickly wife and our household income puts us in the average. My ability to earn more just offsets her inability to earn one. Of course though medical expenses make our expenses higher and as I looked for work I went through the excersise to see how much I needed to make and it just blows me away mainly because medical expenses are a third of the budget. as high as housing although we have about as cheap a housing situation as someone could have nowadays. We have such a topsy turvy crazy society were one can go from being comfortable to destitute or vice versa at practically the drop of a hat but the direction and pressures are downward. Ugh. I do find middle managers tend to work relative to metrics they want to look good and they want the people under them to focus on them. the people under them usually just want to have their stuff working and to clearly know which thing to concentrate on and higher levels also looking to have stuff working but from a larger perspective.
Tech is a bit different because a significant portion of your compensation comes as stock when you get higher up the ladder but yeah.
Stock options and grants are a tool to trick you into accepting lower pay and conflating your interests with those of the capital class. (Speaking as someone who has received both!)
Yeah I'm speaking from experience here in that about a third of my pay is in stock.
I wouldn't say my pay is low though, for what it's worth.
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Yeah I would say that is high enough but its pretty up there for stock to be all that significant.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Nothing will change until the rich take a big haircut.
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Fingers and toes crossed, get'em for every last penny!
luck is not gonna help. Only action and organizing can save us. Join a union too.
Oh, I would if I lived in a place which had such movements, believe me... As it is, all I can do is wish for Lady Luck to smile upon those who have the chance! Sure, it's a bad idea to bank everything on luck, but it can never hurt to have some on your side!
where do you live? The tech workers movement is reaching pretty much everywhere there's tech production.
Romania. There haven't been any significant developments in this sense around here, at least not as far as I know. Each company around here has a Wagers' Rep of sorts and they gather with other such Reps and discuss wage related stuff, but it's nowhere near as elaborate as a Union, nor has it ever felt significant in any relevant way.
Most people have kinda'... given up on this country. Everyone scrambles to eject themselves abroad as soon as humanly possible. Can't say I blame'em.
Are you aware that Romanian IT sector has the highest rate of unionization of any IT sector in the world? SITT is a case study studied all over the world. https://transform-network.net/blog/interview/the-romanian-it-workers-labour-union-showed-that-everyone-can/
It might not be the sexiest, most modern radical union, but it is a case of success with numbers to show. Maybe you can start from there.
Huh, I honestly had no idea, thank you! I'll certainly start looking into it! Perfect timing, too, quit my job so I could focus on trying to get into stuff like this!
I sure hope the fact that it isn't common knowledge (at least not among most of the people with whom I've worked during the past decade) is down to them being effective and not it being a hopeless cause, though... Speaking from personal experience (and I leave room for doubt because I have notoriously bad luck in general), it sure didn't feel all that grand working in this industry. Not about the work in itself, but the practices...
Pretty much anywhere outside the USA, the communication of tech workers unionizing is pretty much absent and expecially news about it. This is a big deal, but it doesn't say much about the actual penetration of unions in a given sector. It's a complex topic, but I explain it with the fact that the topic is pretty much uninteresting, unless it's a well-known brand is unionizing. Since most famous tech companies are American, there's enough mass of news there to actually push media outlets to cover news.
In Italy, where there are very few "well-known" IT companies, the topic is completely absent, to the point where IT union organizers from a city don't know about big wins by other IT unions organizers from another city. Nonetheless the narrative is not the thing, and there can be big impacts that become visible to the general public only after sociological studies.
So, long-story short, the fact you never heard about SITT doesn't say much about its effectiveness, just about their ability to communicate.
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Meanwhile Accenture has 1400:1 CEO-to-worker pay ratio.
Yeah, then they lose all their best and brightest who are disappearing off to work on their own things.
All these idiot C-suite trash will wind up holding is a bag of yesterday's technology, a mass of obsolete infrastructure and a bunch of brands they've helped destroy.
It is by design. Pool a bunch of money, buy companies to bleed them dry. Wait for new companies to take their place, rinse and repeat.
Eh... You can run a company without the best or brightest nowadays. Mediocrity gets the job done, mostly.
It's always been that way. Otherwise General Motors wouldn't exist. Neither would Microsoft.
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H1Bs are fine with coming into the office and won’t put up a fight with any corporate policy….
Yup every time I see H1B I replace it in my head with tech slave. They're paid, but the deck is so stacked against them they effectively cannot refuse anything. ANYTHING. A well informed H1B worker might score a chance at permanent residency for some of the abuse they suffer. But mostly it's just years of abuse with very strict rules to get their residency.
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Look, I'm kind of an outsider on this conversation because until we get a DaVinci for mechanical work, I'm never going to be WFH, but there's something interesting I've noted with all my programmer friends.
The industrial world, that's where unions are, they're getting pulled out but that's the places unions live. The people working in stores are starting to push hard on unions. My industry, biomed, hasn't really gotten unions off the ground, but it's rumbling. We're a small industry that's so short on people it's just easier to move jobs than start a union, but we're a mix of tech and industrial backgrounds. But the programming tech backgrounds, at least here in the midwest, is apparently so anti-union I don't know how it'd get off the ground from what I'm hearing from my friends. Their coworkers who are mad about RTO will immediately turn around and say the corporate lines about unions. I'm honestly kinda baffled and hope your industry gets it figured out.
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