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I stand by my statement.

Yes the flawed voting system is a major problem which is why we should put no effort into maintaining it and should put all of our effort into maintaining local organizations to make up for the fact that our government wants to cut all social spending.

The fascists are here. They aren't knocking down the door. They're in the White House. And the strategy of voting the Democrats to prevent the fascist from Gaining power has failed.

The Democrats have learned no lessons and it's now up to the people to create a whole new system of power but if people are looking for something to do in the moment one should be focused on their local organizations that actually do something for their community instead of the DNC and other electoral political organizations that do nothing but waste people time on trying to stall the death of a Dying System that is already delivered us into the hands of fascists.

Oh and if you're voting for the Democrats because they're supposed to save the minorities that's on the chopping block too. They're ready to sacrifice everybody for power.

1. Who was the tiebreaker vote? not a Democrat
2. Those justices were not guaranteed to rule that way and it should not have required a supreme court action to ensure rights to gay marriage.

Okay so the Democrats managed to appoint a couple of Supreme Court Justices that brought the balance to 5-4. Not that it matters because they squandered that with the win of the Trump Administration.

You're giving the Democrats far too much credit for rights at the LGBT community fought for themselves. So what did the Democrats accomplish, instead of just not prosecuting lgbtq people? Did they do anything to help enshrine the rights of lgbtq people because I remember that being a major problem for the Democrats was that they weren't doing anything for for the lgbtq community.

It's like when people give Henry Ford the credit for the 8-hour workday and not the unions that died fighting for that right.

So she should have voted symbolically for it like the five Democrats who did?

I don't care how much money it takes away from Israel they deserves no money while it's committing a genocide.

I responded to the benefit of other people looking at your post. It's attracting a lot of attention And I want to highlight the lack of action of the Democrats.

I did not respond to you but to the overall post. Regardless I don't really care about this point so I can concede it.

The courts. Specifically the Roberts courts. Not the Democrats. Give the ACLU a bunch of credit but you'll notice that's not the Democrats.

Protip: if you're going to give the Democrats credit for it at least have something lined up to prove it.

Forgive me, 🙏 I misinterpreted what you wrote as 1990s to 2000. I'm still confused as how the Democrats led the lgbtq+ revolution in the 2010s.

You know you don't need to respond to every comment and that not every comment is for the op.

Okay so when did trans rights get better according to you? And why don't you give me an example of the Democrats having a hand in that?

Last I checked part of the reason trans rights got better is because the lgbtq community fought tooth and nail for every right they had. Not because the Democrats been benevolently bestowed upon them the rights they should have had in the first place.

Stretching vague definitions to try and cover your argument. Well played.

Did you not say that trans rights in LGBT rights were awful in the 1990s?

Is the Bush Administration later than the 1990s?

Did you like not think about this? That is a very shallow interpretation bordering on irresponsible.

I'm sorry did I respond to you or did you respond to me? Who wants to debate who?

.... this is awkward.

Speaking of recent history can you remind me what party was in charge from 2000 to 2008? You know when those rights were increasing in society?

Its fun to point out when people use fallacies like the ones you used here. A genetic fallacy and an ad hominem. It's the sign of a weak orator. One who is unable to actually support their arguments.

Yes we all know that trans rights got stronger under Joe Biden and his administration was able to enshrine strong trans protections.... Oh wait.

Those Democrats have done so much to help pull us into a new enlightened age and definitely haven't let Republican policies stand every single time they got back into office.

That feeling when Democrats are turning on trans people. Pretending the Democrats will save us as a Fool's errand. Pretending that trans people wouldn't be on the chopping block if the Democrats had federal office is naive.

Some Democrats, reeling from Republican attacks tying their party to transgender rights issues, are privately furious at their leaders and explicitly warning they need a better strategy going into 2026.

Source: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/13/democrats-moderates-transgender-issues-strategy-00189123

The obvious and moral position is that nobody should support genocide.

Which is why I don't care who supports genocide. If you support any form of genocide your opinion automatically is worthless to me.

Who cares who supports genocide? Those people can be instantly discounted.

Your question is inane. Answer my previous question if you want an answer to this. You have yet to answer anything I've posited. It's an interesting technique to impose your own question and demand an answer when you have answered none.

Still not an answer to the question. One that you posed.

I see you're dodging your own quotation.

A lot of people see all the genocide as 100% justified

Who cares how much support there is for a genocide? why even bring that up? I'm 100% sure you won't answer this either.

Do you think all consequences of aggressors are justified?

I think imposing any consequences on the aggressors of a genocide would be a good start.