npdean

What is the point in dying if it won’t make a difference

I will defend it but once it is established that I am not going to win, I will seek to protect what I can instead of risking more for what has been lost.

How?

Fair enough

What propaganda?

Agreed. But they are not going to stop, so we should let more people die?

It might be but people cannot keep dying for this stupidity because Ukraine is not going to win, it has been clear from day one. So why push more people into the blender?

People are already dying ffs. Stop the deaths that are happening right now than fearing for potential genocide. I don’t even think Putin wants a genocide, he just wants land.

Edit - It is extortion 100% but what is the alternative?

True. Trump, Putin, Xi are not to be trusted but there has to be an end to the war. Ukraine cannot win it, it is clear since day one. There has to be some sort of diplomatic solution once there is a ceasefire.

People in the comments (and West, in general) don't understand how terrible war is. They think them supporting Ukraine to prolong the inevitable is a good thing. They are killing thousands of people and the outcome is unlikely to change. So many deaths in vain.

A very stupid and naïve argument people make is Putin should just leave Ukraine and the war will be over. Why would he give up a winning game? It is simple solution to a very complex problem, and simple solutions are rarely correct solutions.