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So basically you are saying that abortions are a fact of life...

Glad to know that a country where women don't have unwanted pregnancies is a pure fantasy, so it isn't an objective that anyone should work towards.

• Let's not try to reduce maternal mortality rate so that women don't have to make the horrible choice between living and having an abortion

• Let's not have safe, effective, and available contraception so that women don't get pregnant on accident

• Let's not try to eliminate rape so that women aren't forcibly impregnated

No, a country with legal abortions that are unwanted isn't achievable so we shouldn't try to work towards it. Just like we will never eliminate gun violence, so why bother even trying to work towards it...

I feel like this is just as much of a meme as this post: https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f7799a12-d1a3-4cc3-b682-8c2943043baa.jpeg

Which is a screenshot of an old news story.

Or this post: https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1ef0fc84-eace-47f0-b928-7a1446e03b6c.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256

Which is simply a screenshot of someones Twitter post.

So I'm pretty sure that isn't why it is downvoted so much...

^ This is the only attempt at an objective argument in this entire thread and it is not the argument presented by the OPs story, which was the point I was trying to make.

Maternal mortality includes abortions though: A maternal death is defined by the World Health Organization as “the death of a woman while pregnant or within 42 days of termination of pregnancy".

I could care less about being downvoted, but it made me realize that even people who claim to be interested in objective truth and facts are no different than the religious people who they mock for ignoring scientific evidence for things like global warming. Everyone just wants to reaffirm what they already believe.

"Still a man, he hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest" -Paul Simon

Where does the Bible say life begins at first breath? I know that is says this, "13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb." Psalm 139:13 NIV.

If I were to argue on premises, then I would start with a higher premise: Why is murder illegal? If it is my religious belief that murder is wrong, then by your argument doesn't that make homicide laws a violation of the 1st Amendment and thus unconstitutional?

What you are describing is actually the simple truth that many worldviews and the beliefs and values that stem from them are incompatible and cannot coexist. This is the fundamental problem with the first ammendment. It assumes that people are exercising beliefs that are not diametrically opposed to each other.

Ironically, a bolt-action hunting rifle which is legal in all 50 states would be a much better choice for an assassination attempt than "assault rifles" like an AR-15 or the even less accurate AK-47. So not only can they not shoot, they apparently don't know anything about rifles either.

I'm not sure how you interpret this story to represent this comment, but it appears to me that Robert's sister likely invited him to her Bible study, not because he is a Christian but expressly because he is not. He was likely dragged there by his wife Corinna. This seems to be corraborated by the ABC story:

Members of both Woodhull’s and Castillo’s family urged her not to marry him.

“It’s a testament to the kind of person she was that she went through with it, thinking she could help him,” the prosecutor said. “I can’t believe that she knew her wedding vows would ultimately be her death sentence.”

So Corinna, against the advice of everyone who knows Robert, marries into an abusive relationship thinking she can help him, and brings him to his sister's Bible study, where he stabs her in a supposed drug induced rage, and you interpret his actions as an accurate representation of Christian love? Robert doesn't represent even Wordly love in this story, let alone Christ like love.