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[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 6 months ago

Not just infrastructure, payments are also convenient with Ali pay/WeChat pay. Everyone pays everything by phone, most haven't used cash or card in years, although you can if you want. Apps are also ridiculously well designed and integrated, less visible as a foreigner, as much if it is obviously in Chinese and you have a language barrier. But you can really do anything you can imagine in WeChat. Alipay can also translate in miniapps. Say you are in a restaurant, you will scan a qr code on the table, can have a menu that you can automatically translate if you so chose. You also can order and pay through that menu on your phone.

Bureaucracy exists like everywhere else, but tends to be faster and more efficient in my experience. It's not perfect, but the country does feel very different.

Also, it doesn't depend that much on the city. I have been to most large cities in China, many small and medium sized ones too. I have also been to the countryside. The latter is more relaxed, but everywhere has technology and infrastructure. Basically all cities are serviced by train. Towns will all have bus systems that mean you can get anywhere in the country with public transportation.

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not that surprising given FT recently reported (archive) "China on cusp of next-generation chip production despite US curbs". That said, like always, China does things at astounding speed.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4045522

(Never cross posted before, if this is incorrect/wrong/breaks any rules mods please delete or let me know and I'll delete, I just thought this might be interesting and wanted some discussion)

Some thoughts and points I've noticed in/about China:

  1. Everything you hear from Global North media is wrong or misleading. Perhaps there are a few exceptions, but if you ever come to China you will find all the media narratives are false or misleading.
  2. You should always try to keep in mind the diversity, size, and expansive history of China when trying to analyze or understand it. China has 56 officially recognized ethnic groups, the land mass is slightly larger than all the US (any articles that say China is smaller are using the CIA world factbook which counts certain maritime zones for the US but not China), and China/Chinese culture has a history of some 5,000 years. (Liberal analysis is already unreliable, but also ignores just about all of this)
  3. On the topic of ehthic minorities, they enjoy quite a bit of support for their culture and socioeconomic status. Minorities with significant presence in provinces (e.g.: Xinjiang) and smaller administrative divisions will have special “autonomous” statuts. They have special provisions, for example ID cards will be written in Simplified Chinese and the language of the ethnic group. Minorities also have preferential treatment (similar to affirmative action) for university entrance. Moreover there are special universities for “nationalities” (ethnic minorities) such as the well reputed Minzu University in Beijing.
  4. Global North economic indicators like GDP per capita don’t measure the level of development well. While people work hard throughout the country, they also have a good quality of life and opportunities. This includes smaller cities which according to Global North statistics would be much poorer, and should have access to less services. (Also everywhere is extremely safe, both from petty and violent crime)
  5. Political sentiment is complicated, it’s not overwhelmingly negative, but there is differently a divergence and a plurality of opinions. In the countryside you will find many homes, including new ones, with large portraits of Mao. Shanghai on the other hand is very liberal. However the party has generally good support and no real political opposition internally.
  6. The party is ingrained into society. Many young people aspire to join the party, which is a competitive process. Institutions such as universities have official party committees, which jolw much of the power. Likewise, most companies also have a party presence and oversight.
  7. Despite developing rapidly, China is very large and still has some regions and areas in need of development. The party is aware of this and has is doing and exemplary job. Young people are encouraged to go to the countryside to volunteer and work. Many young officials are sent to work in such areas. There is a reason why a majority of the reduction in poverty globally is thanks to China.
  8. Global North, particularly American cultural hegemony has influence still. It’s is waning, but is certainly a challenge and is one of the key issues to address. While the youth has political education, it seems to not be particularly effective. The party should probably try it’s best to present attractive and engaging counter narratives. This has had success on geopolitical issues, such as Russia/Ukraine where most people have an ML or ML adjacent position. However, it remains to be developed for economic and social issues. “Western” economics is taught uncritically in many institutions.
  9. Relatedly, many people are pessimistic at times about China’s future economic trajectory and growth. This may be because of the Western influence in economic understanding. I believe China’s economy has good potential, as long as the party keeps steering the market and SOE well, as they have done. Also, China is fundamentally restructuring it’s economy to become green, which is at the expense of some areas/cities, e.g.: those that produce coal. That being said it is for the overall good of the economy and society. Moreover, the greening of China was pioneered by comrade Xi, which is a position he has held long before it was mainstream or popular in China or the West.

Sorry for any typos. I'd welcome discussion and to hear others thoughts.

 

Some thoughts and points I've noticed in/about China:

  1. Everything you hear from Global North media is wrong or misleading. Perhaps there are a few exceptions, but if you ever come to China you will find all the media narratives are false or misleading.
  2. You should always try to keep in mind the diversity, size, and expansive history of China when trying to analyze or understand it. China has 56 officially recognized ethnic groups, the land mass is slightly larger than all the US (any articles that say China is smaller are using the CIA world factbook which counts certain maritime zones for the US but not China), and China/Chinese culture has a history of some 5,000 years. (Liberal analysis is already unreliable, but also ignores just about all of this)
  3. On the topic of ehthic minorities, they enjoy quite a bit of support for their culture and socioeconomic status. Minorities with significant presence in provinces (e.g.: Xinjiang) and smaller administrative divisions will have special “autonomous” statuts. They have special provisions, for example ID cards will be written in Simplified Chinese and the language of the ethnic group. Minorities also have preferential treatment (similar to affirmative action) for university entrance. Moreover there are special universities for “nationalities” (ethnic minorities) such as the well reputed Minzu University in Beijing.
  4. Global North economic indicators like GDP per capita don’t measure the level of development well. While people work hard throughout the country, they also have a good quality of life and opportunities. This includes smaller cities which according to Global North statistics would be much poorer, and should have access to less services. (Also everywhere is extremely safe, both from petty and violent crime)
  5. Political sentiment is complicated, it’s not overwhelmingly negative, but there is differently a divergence and a plurality of opinions. In the countryside you will find many homes, including new ones, with large portraits of Mao. Shanghai on the other hand is very liberal. However the party has generally good support and no real political opposition internally.
  6. The party is ingrained into society. Many young people aspire to join the party, which is a competitive process. Institutions such as universities have official party committees, which jolw much of the power. Likewise, most companies also have a party presence and oversight.
  7. Despite developing rapidly, China is very large and still has some regions and areas in need of development. The party is aware of this and has is doing and exemplary job. Young people are encouraged to go to the countryside to volunteer and work. Many young officials are sent to work in such areas. There is a reason why a majority of the reduction in poverty globally is thanks to China.
  8. Global North, particularly American cultural hegemony has influence still. It’s is waning, but is certainly a challenge and is one of the key issues to address. While the youth has political education, it seems to not be particularly effective. The party should probably try it’s best to present attractive and engaging counter narratives. This has had success on geopolitical issues, such as Russia/Ukraine where most people have an ML or ML adjacent position. However, it remains to be developed for economic and social issues. “Western” economics is taught uncritically in many institutions.
  9. Relatedly, many people are pessimistic at times about China’s future economic trajectory and growth. This may be because of the Western influence in economic understanding. I believe China’s economy has good potential, as long as the party keeps steering the market and SOE well, as they have done. Also, China is fundamentally restructuring it’s economy to become green, which is at the expense of some areas/cities, e.g.: those that produce coal. That being said it is for the overall good of the economy and society. Moreover, the greening of China was pioneered by comrade Xi, which is a position he has held long before it was mainstream or popular in China or the West.

Sorry for any typos. I'd welcome discussion and to hear others thoughts.

 

Archive link: https://archive.ph/19l1e

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 months ago

Archived link/paywall bypass: https://archive.is/VbSPI

Also, you would think a region once plagued by unrest and terrorism (fomented by our favorite imperialist power of course), now stable and prospering would be cause for celebration? No? Also about NEV subsidies, isn't this what all countries should be doing? Besides, the Global North has long subsidized industries when they chose to.

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

This is the paper the article and graphic are based on:

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0230555

It's using a survey from mainland China.

 

Interesting to see how this will go. Often the US visits China. Also, note how, despite everything, China keeps trying diplomacy and peace. Meanwhile the US is fixated on war. War in Ukrane, Palestine, and eventually China; if the US has its way that is.

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

What is the general area/field your diploma is in? I dont think thr Chinese government will let arbitrary people into China to set up a commune... However, you could consider continuing your education in China (presumably a master if you have a bachelor?). China has scholarship schemes that you can look into. Many have full tuition plus living stipend. Then, you will improve your skills and enable yourself to stay more easily subsequent to your studies, if you so chose.

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Economic growth itself is just a number, development is what matters. In addition and as a part of development I also specifically mentioned education and improvement of quality of life. You could add literacy, housing, levels of nourishment, and much, much more.

I won't argue about history or its interpretations with you now. Just consider the path to development wealthy capitalist countries took, which involved slavery, colonialism, genocide, brutal worker suppression, and perhaps the worse working conditions in history during industrialisation.

You may attribute many horible things to communist countries. I might argue much of this is exaggerated by the media of the anti-comunist country you live in. Even if it is all true, developed capitalist countries did the same to themselves, and other peoples around the globe.

Then consider the development communist countries have had compared to undeveloped capitalist countries. People can have better lives, that is what matters.

 

This is likely insignificant, yet gives some hope. Japan may yet refrain from becoming a pawn, as it would surely be obliterated in a conflict with China. Unfortunately, this is probably but a squabble over blame for imperial incompetence.

Cup half full: either Japan is incompetent or ths US was and is trying to pin the blame on Japan, which will push them away. It could also be a pretext to warn Japan it can be dropped military in an attempt to draw them in, a sort of threat or loyalty test. Either way, imperial disunity favors multipolarity and AES.

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Individuals in struggling societies don't always atomize, many revolutions occurred due to degradation in conditions. When the cost of fighting for change is less than doing nothing you will fight, and you will fight with others, or else you will quickly fail and be forgotten.

Curious what your definition of facism is. With a few exceptions, communist inclined states have always lead to unprecedented economic development, education, improvement of quality of life, etc. If you take all cold war propaganda at face value, you can not deny the development seen in such states; when balanced by alleged atrocities, you see a stark contrast to colnialist nations that too committed atrocities but with little to show for it.

I find the surface level historical criticisms of communist states, even if applied at an equaly superficial level, is applied to capitalist states, you would find a staggering contradiction. Maybe you should read more. Add to your socioeconomic calculus the fact that no communist state benefited from the same starting point as colonizer countries, and try to be critical of this. Consider that none of these communist states had the benifits of colonization, and when compared to other developing countries did remarkably better.

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

The point is not about impact but intention. Evidently liberalism, for all its flaws, certainly has had a significant impact. The progressive forces 250 years ago where for the most part already proto socialists. Fundamentally liberalism has been reactionary, even in the case of feudalism and monarchy, liberalism has tended to air for maintaining monarchy; such as constitutional monarchies where one can find leberals having preference for this rather than republics. This can be observed in historical cases such as France where many liberals wished to maintain the monarchy, but the contradictions and progressive forces where too great. Rather than a progressive force, I would contend that liberalism tends to be reactionary to development and progressive forces. Today this can be seen in the liberal leaders of developing countries handicapping themselves and their sovereignty by maintaining economic relations to the benefit of the imperial core. See ECOWAS and 'preserving democracy' as of late.

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Curious if you could elaborate. Authority is complicated. Perhaps you should read this relatively short text by Engels.

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 66 points 1 year ago (26 children)

The point is that liberalism and facism are intrinsically linked. Liberalism does not seek to change the world and stems from philosophies instead seeking to explain it. Accordingly, liberalism is a philosophical justification for the capitalist status quo. As such, when contradictions in capitalism accentuate with time, such as those between classes, liberalism turns to fascism. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds, because the liberal is a closet fascist when times are good; when class struggle poses a threat, it clamps down. You can see this throughout history.

That a poor, simplified explanation, but I hope it helps.

 

Hoping more support form local states and the greater presence of China in the region will help.

 

Thoughts?

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Also for some reason he ate the grain of the east of Ukraine that supported him, but didn’t eat the grain in the west that was against the USSR…

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