zazazaza

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[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Some of my rights have already been taken away under the current Supreme Court and I’m not willing to risk the rights of myself and others for the sake of some self-righteous quest.

Finally, I respect you for going mask off - you're not willing to lose your freedom for somebody outside your country - you believe your lives cost more than theirs and doing anything that puts you at risk is not worthwhile.

We can’t completely dismantle the system in a week so what else can we do right now?

Have you tried taking direct action against weapon manufacturers? Going to Harris rallies and calling her out for supporting genocide? Convincing others to take drastic measures instead of just voting for the lesser evil? Those are small things that actually help dismantle the system - voting doesn't.

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

The first mistake was bartering with moderates - if a person is willing to compromise on genocide - what would they not be willing to compromise on?

MLK said it 60 years ago and it's still true today: “…that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season'"

But keep waiting and hoping that next cycle the window wouldn't have moved further to the right

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Is your relative safety worth the lives of thousands of Palestinians? You seem to think so. But always remember - "pragmatic" support for the "lesser evil" isn't going to result in less genocide - it just teaches them exactly how many atrocities you're willing to accept.

When you tell politicians they can bomb any country, support any ethnic cleansing, and expand any war while still getting your vote as long as they wave a rainbow flag - you're not preventing fascism, you're just giving it a differently colored stamp of approval.

The fact that you think "moral brownie points" are even part of the discussion only shows you view the lives of people as nothing more than a political tool.

And look, if your moral framework tells you to vote blue - vote blue - but don't let that be the end of it - go out and risk losing your freedom before there's no-one left to risk theirs to save yours.

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Oh sick is Kamala campaigning on that??

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago

"Even if" and "threatening to use military force against political dissidents"? - like how Kamala vowed to unconditionally support the genocide? or Gavin Newsom strategically used violent police force to disband pro-Palestinian encampments but not defend them against counter protestors? - it's already impossible to push for a change in foreign policy under blue rule - why do you think that will suddenly change when they get another 4 years in office?

But hey they haven't come for you yet, so you can sleep easy knowing there's brown people, political dissidents and lgbtq+ folk to be taken away before it's your turn..

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You are!

Don't just vote - go out on the streets and demand that the Dems condemn the genocide and to stop sending military aid to Israel if they actually want your vote!

If you won't risk having your rights taken away on the grounds of literal genocide - what would you risk them for?

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago

Why are all your arguments "if you don't do X you're doing Y"?

Has the two-party system defeated you so much that you can't see anything but binary choices? It's been decades of being forced to choose between two bad choices and you've been choosing a bad option every time, on the promise of a better one next election. But you're never going to get an alternative if you just keep voting for the lesser of two evils every 4 years.

And I hope the Putin comment is just that and not a xenophobic dogwhistle because their name is in Cyrillic..

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Anyone who explicitly decides against voting for Harris/Walz implicitly decides that they're fine with Trump.

And anyone who explicitly decides voting for Harris/Walz explicitly decides they are fine with genocide irrespective of Trump.

If Trump promised to end the Palestinian Genocide, but all other points of his agenda (labor protections, lgbt rights etc.) were the same, would you vote for Trump instead? Would you fuck over every other bit of progress for that one issue?

In a fantasy world where he would actually do it, yes? So you're saying you are okay with max libertarianism in your own county even if that means ethnically cleansing an innocent population in another? That's a very backwards understanding of liberty and human rights.

Also saying "that one issue" when we're talking about a literal genocide is super rich. Would you have said the same thing about the Holocaust? "I know this Hitler guy really hates minorities but look at how much he loves doggos and what amazing things he's doing for the German economy!"

If the Overton Window can be yanked back to the left and the Christofascists left behind

You see voting for a party that has vowed unwavering support for an oppressor to exterminate a native population as a move to the left? You'd rather vote for Librofascists than Christofascists and that's your choice - I'd rather not vote for fascists at all.

Just don't blame voters that draw a hard line at genocide if the Dems lose, rather ask why they are willing to throw an election by not taking a hard stance against the literal worst crime against humanity.

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

I understand juggling the current political hellscape with a child is nightmarish but building a movement behind a better political system would be the first step in allowing people to vote for better options and resolve the myriad of issues you've listed - until then saying to "keep the cart behind the horse" only means we'll continue bickering in the backseat while the obviously broken two-party state drives us all off the edge.

And I get that between work and family finding time to be politically active can be challenging but I would hope you can find an hour or two a month to join your local RCV advocacy group and help create a better political environment for yours and everybody else's children.

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (9 children)

So now that you've identified the problem I can only hope you're actively building grassroots support to replace the current system instead of just posting online about how people should vote blue no matter what, right?

[–] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

Idk I personally can empathize with people that have been forced by the Zionist regime to indiscriminately kill civilians "for the greater good" without necessarily blaming the individuals themselves..

Like I don't question there are IOF soldiers that are bloodthirsty and see Palestinians as less than human target practice - but I also doubt that a person that experiences severe PTSD and takes their own life was like "hell yeah let's bulldoze some Palestinian kids!1!" - I think this just shows that while the Zionist genocidal machine massively harms Palestinians first and foremost - it also has a detrimental effect on its own citizens (see Vietnamese war veterans) - so while it may seem "just" to clown on the puppets carrying out the genocide on the ground - some of them are still just mislead people that have been fed on an abundant diet of hasbara 🤷🏽‍♀️

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