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Torrent. Phht. Who got the time for that. Sonarr/Radarr/emby(or whichever u prefer) Enter title, wait a minute (unless u r on slow net or prefer 4k remux) and watch. Enter Series-name,go to bed. Enjoy 12 full seasons tomorrow.
Totally hasslefree, no stupid trackers or missing seeder or waiting-time. Movie was posted 10yrs ago? No problem. Still there, still fullspeed. Device not certified for netfucks or rooted? Who cares?
And when your lady asks "why can we watch this, this is not on Netflix" you can reply "what is netflix? I'm a pro"
Sonarr and radarr aren't going to do what you claim without a Usenet client to do the actual downloading. So on top of your *arrs you also have to pick a quality indexer, find and pay for a Usenet provider, and set up your download client. And preferably use a nicer frontend for finding the content a la Overseerr or Ombi. And probably Bazarr to get subtitles for all the anime/foreign language content. Also good luck getting good, consistent releases automatically without some serious dedication to setting up your quality profiles.
You can set up sonarr/radarr to use torrent clients but it’s more effective with and built for Usenet for sure. But it still works fine with torrents. It’s also not terribly difficult to setup quality profiles if you know basic regex
My setup does the following: For movies: downloads 4k remux from private trackers first, then Usenet filtered by ideal release groups, then 1080p remux from private trackers, and then Usenet by ideal release groups. If those all fail then I am notified so I can take a look at the releases that are left over
For tv: pretty similar
For anime: releases pulled from sneedex when possible. When not AB/nyaa remux preferred, then fall back on BR rip hevc from either those trackers or Usenet via AT.
Regex to also filter for things like I prefer Dolby vision and atmos audio with my setup whenever possible. I filter for English releases unless it’s a foreign film or anime (refuse dubs, yuck). With anime I filter for common fansub groups like subsplease, commie, etc to ensure a release has subs.
And jellyseer so that my family and friends don’t have to deal with any of the above and can just type in “movie name”
It’s not perfect of course mainly because sometimes people upload stuff with bad tagging and file names, but it works well the overwhelming majority of the time and I am able to grab media extremely quickly on gigabit internet. A 4k remux movie downloads in 6-10 mins usually because I have the connection throttled a bit so that my other computers in the house don’t all choke just because a movie started downloading
Then there’s the other benefits: a komga server with all my books, sheet music, and manga that can be served to my ereader/phones/laptop via mihon or any of the Tachiyomi forks. No need to bother with mangadex or bato, my manga all loads extremely fast, ad free, no watermarks/credit pages and is the highest possible quality.
I have a navidrome setup for all my music and finamp (I use jellyfin, fuck plex and their snitching). I have a dns server so I can adblock everything in the house, I don’t have to worry about installing extensions and can run adblock on devices that typically can’t run extensions like smart TVs.
I also now have a significant amount of network storage, over 100tb. My computers all back up to that and the server is archived to tape once a month. I don’t need to bother with google, apple, dropbox, amazon, etc. having copies of my files.
This all took about 2 days to setup and runs on hardware that’s worth about $150 (minus the drives but you don’t need to start with that much storage). You just need some e waste pc from 2015 or so and the know how, which isn’t that hard to gain. This is all well documented online. The trash guides will get your sonarr/radarr setup 85% of the way there. if you’re like me you’ll diverge from their decisions pretty quickly, but that’s just a matter of modifying the regex a bit and their discord is very active and helpful with questions if you don’t understand something. Plus there are thousands of reddit posts, youtube videos, etc.
All the software is free (unless you use something like unraid or the premium plex) and a Usenet subscription is dirt cheap if you wait for a major sale like Black Friday, I pay $40/yr for unlimited
Sure you need those too (except maybe the frontend). Not like it's hard work. And once setup it runs basically forever without tinkering.
So far rarely had bad luck with inconsistent releases. And considering with how warez were when i started doing warez (before the interwebz), it's super consistent.
What is yout point even? You seem to use the same?
I wish? That's not my experience, anything that's not superpopular is hard to find. Are you using private trackers?
It definitely depends on your trackers and how smart sonarr/radarr are with picking a useable torrent. I think 80-90% of the time I don't have to think about it, but there are some shows I've had to really dig for. Private trackers make it way easier
Rarely use torrents at all. Usenet. Screw upload ratio and that shit. I'm too old for that and i download a tb a month or so 😁
Doesn't this solution require downloading the file, reencoding and then it's available to watch? How do you only need one minute to start watching?
Doesn't sound to me like they actually understand what they're talking about. Sonarr and Radarr both use trackers to download files from either torrents or usenet. Emby is a media server that displays the downloaded files (like netflix). You don't typically have to reencode what you download.
I do know. I just didn't want to list everything, as those who'd do that, know that. And there is no "tracker" for usenet. Usenet is probably older than you 😁
Reencoding (if necessary) is done on the fly by the emvy-server.
There is a provider with Usenet which serves the same purpose (and costs money so there's a trade off). Radarr and Sonarr are not finding the content for you. It's coming from whatever service you are using.
Well my internet costs money too. Netflix would be 20 bucks and i have 30% of what muricans have. My usenet is 5 bucks a month, the indexers (2 atm) are like 25 a year. So i would still have money left for a nice tea 😁
And netflix wouldn't be enough. If i had all providers i want, it'll be >100 moneyz a month. That's ridiculous. And probably still missing something
But yes. Take torrents and save even those mere bucks. I just want it comfy and fast. The principle would be the same.
Ok? Why are you bringing Netflix into it? No one suggested that. You can do whatever you want the point of my responses are that Sonarr/Radarr are not as simple as you implied.
Of course they aren't. As netflix wouldn't be enough too, you need internet, a device, an OS and an app. Wouldn't mention those when talking about netflix too. So yes. Of course you'd need a downloader and probably an indexer too. And a firewall, vpn and whatever else you can think of, and a media-server, and an app, and a device and OS. Oh and a browser to input your search into. Probably a keyboard too :-)
But *narrs are those that take your input, query indexers, do the background-work, put results into your downloader(s) of choice and into your media-server of choice. They're the crucial part here. Like the netflix-app for watching netflix-content. Everything else is your personal flavour.
Right but you still wait for however long the file needs to download. Normally quite a bit more than 1 minute. That's what got me confused about this almost streaming like experience that I'm missing out on.
Yeah that part of their comment was also misleading. Basically they're saying Radarr/Sonarr are better than torrents but really they're just a fancy front end. If something downloads fast on them it will go just as fast in whatever torrent client you use.
Nonsense. Torrents depends on seeders. Usenet is always (depending on the provider) max-speed.
*narrs are basically just interfaces for torrents and/or nzbs. And unless I'm into some very specific niche-stuff that requires a private tracker, why should one use torrents? Their only upside is that they're totally free.
I didn't say anything about Usenet in the comment you are replying to. The point is Radarr/Sonarr are not Usenet. They are just front ends regardless of which service you are getting content from. Whatever download speed you get on that service is what you get, they have nothing to do with it.
I've had plenty of torrents download at high speed, is it less reliable than Usenet? Yes, but It's also free. I'll wait a day or two if I have to if it saves me money.
And i didn't say they're better than torrents, as they can do both. It's just the easier overall wrapping than using the regular torrenting-way we did since torrents first came up. It makes me even able to actually use torrents (if i wanted to).
And yes, of course usenet is faster than torrent. Sure you might have a fresh torrent with tons of high-speed-seeders that downloads at fullspeed. But if that one is a year old you're often outta luck. If it's 10 years old you're most likely outta luck. Never the case with usenet. Always, everything from the last 12yrs at absolute maximum speed your line (and the provider) allows.
"Free" is relative. If you're using public trackers, then yes. Private trackers either require to share a lot (ugh, no thanks and also highly illegal here, hence i would need a vpn) or donate. I pay 5 bucks a month for usenet and 25 or so a year for indexers (plural). That's one delivered (and shitty) pizza here.
Not sure how else anyone was supposed to interpret that.
Sure it needs to download. But i got 10 fibers á 1gbit bundled and a 10gb home network and a good and fast server. So after hitting "search" it'll take around a minute til it's leeched, unpacked, sorted and imported into emby. The last part actually take the longest.
But speed isn't really the point, it's hit-search-wait-watch. The wait part depends on you.
reencoding is not required in advance, it happens on the fly if needed.
download still needs to be completed first usually, but you can save a lot of time if you compromise in quality.
If i watch stuff from the outside on my phone,i really don't care for quality. Same when I'm at home watching some quick series. For "serious" stuff it takes a while longer. Need to wait some good more minutes for a bd-remux.