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[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 months ago (3 children)

In all honesty, I think Biden gets the credit.

2016 was a shit show and both RNC and DNC fucked it up.

Biden stepped in in 2020 to defeat Trump.

He chose Harris and hinted that he would do one term.

He made good on that and here we are.

That man is a strategist.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So his debate was 4D chess, saying none but god almighty would get him to step aside?

I'm glad he did, and it's commendable, but I don't think this was a master plan. It was responsible resignation in the face of an unwinnable fight

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Look at it this way: if it was the intention all along, how else would you convincingly play it?

The goal is to get the Republicans locked on Trump and save the Democrats from the infighting that cost them 2016.

I couldn't come up with a better plan if I tried.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

You think Biden somehow tricked the GOP into having Trump as the nominee?

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Yes you could. If he bailed three months earlier, for example.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Don't get me wrong, Biden did an outstanding job and it turned out to be a great choice for the country. But that's with our 20/20 hindsight.

I remember back in 2020 people were worried about Biden not being able to do the job. We were all crossing our fingers in the debates that he wouldn't fall apart from Trump's attempts to bully him around too.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 5 points 3 months ago

I know that this is how it's going to be written in history books, so let those of us who had to live through it remember that Biden was seriously attempting to run for re-election until July. He can be remembered as a strategist if Harris gets elected and we avoid losing our democracy, but let the historians do the hero worshipping. He's a self-serving fool, and it took nearly his entire party forsaking him for him to do the thing he should have done from the beginning. Harris running absolutely was not planned from the start, and his one term comments were lies.