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[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 64 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Don't dehumanize him. He's a human just like you and me, and we must stay vigilant to our friends and our selves to not become like Andrew Tate or any other people who have terrible unchecked thoughts and actions.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Somehow I agree with you both

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago

"Yes, the high road is obviously better, however"

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm well aware of my actions. Just like it is. Have you seen the video of it smacking a woman with a belt because she upset it? I'm not joking. The video exists. This is not consensual

https://youtube.com/shorts/9DMpTXhEiIg?si=e5R7s55YbaNBAfJT

[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I do not doubt or counter the terrible things he has done and continues to do.

He is a despicable person.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

He's not a person. He's less than

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why are you calling a sexist pig by pronouns that make him sound like a nonbinary QT?

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Because, and this might be my own perceptions, terms like "they" or "them" for non-binary is for acknowledging humans. To me, that's the least way I can acknowledge their existence. As a fellow human being (if I knew their name, that would probably be easier). But you use words like "it" for insects, or worms, or spiders, or a pile of trash, or pre or post morning coffee dump. Let me tell you, they're both surprisingly consistent piles of shit

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well I know plenty of enbies and/or objectkin who use it/its pronouns and I don't agree with you using their pronouns to insult a conservative. As a gay otherkin enby who's attracted to gay otherkin enbies, the pronoun set it/its applied to a sapient being turns on the part of my brain that looks for attractive people. So I feel as though you're trying to convince me that Tate is a viable sexual partner. Or at least, of a gender identity I could potentially be attracted to. While using he/him others him as a privileged male, and makes it easier to view him as an asshole leveraging social inequality for personal gain.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't mean any offense, but those words were around before the inception of non-binary lifestyles. You don't get to claim them as exclusive use. I will continue referring to Tate as it.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's ridiculous. They only started dropping the H from "hit" to create the word "it" during the middle ages. But nonbinary people have been around for 300,000 years. That means enbies are over 300 times as old as it/its pronouns. Why are you telling lies?

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

My point is you don't have exclusive right to words and their use. You assumed I was using as an offensive comparison tool when I already expressed I wasn't. Again, I don't mean any offense, but for you to support non-binary lifestyles, you seem to think very binary

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The reason it/its pronouns sound nonbinary is that they are. You're taking away Tate's he/him pronouns because you want to take away his masculinity. You're saying he has no more gender than a photocopying machine. Trump is a sexist, and you're calling him sexless as an act of revenge. Unfortunately it doesn't work. It's about as effective as calling Donald Trump the N word. All you're doing is saying that A: you think less of genderless things than male things, and B: you think someone's right to their gender can be taken away if they're evil enough. Neither of those is an empowering message for Tate's victims to hear. Your lie about how long enbies have been around was also not empowering.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Your inaccuracy in the timeframe says a lot, too. Non-binary genders have been traced back to around 2000 BCE, but more modern ideas of it started around the 1960s and were made popular in the 2000s. And again, that's a binary way of thinking. You think I should either agree with you or I'm the enemy. That's not how life works. And then you go on to accuse me of lying when I was conceding because I didn't think I knew enough about the history. And don't assume you know what I believe. I already said it has nothing to with gender, but humanity. I explained how I separate the difference, and I'm going to continue doing the same thing

Also did you really compare "it" with the "N" word?

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you're the enemy, I just think you're weird.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Been called worse. And the feeling is mutual