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As the vice president introduced her new running mate at an energetic rally in Philadelphia, he quickly demonstrated his ability to deliver searing attacks against Donald Trump and JD Vance.

America’s introduction to Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota began with a half-hour of cheering for Vice President Kamala Harris and ended with some of the sharpest attacks Democrats have leveled against former President Donald J. Trump and his running mate, Senator JD Vance of Ohio.

Before a raucous crowd in Philadelphia, Ms. Harris and Mr. Walz presented the Minnesotan as a folksy former schoolteacher and football coach who had inspired his students, served in the military and improved his constituents’ lives.

But it was his ability to deliver searing yet accessible attacks against their Republican opponents that won Mr. Walz a place on the national ticket, and during his first rally, he did not miss his marks.

“Donald Trump sees the world a little differently than us,” he said. “First of all, he doesn’t know the first thing about service. He doesn’t have time for it because he’s too busy serving himself.”

Then came the dagger. “Violent crime was up under Donald Trump,” he said, before pausing for effect. “That’s not even counting the crimes he committed.”

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[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Circular reporting is just one thing that can make this more difficult. Checkout the cycle in this xkcd:

https://xkcd.com/978/

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ok but people fall for obvious BS all the time that should be easy to spot if you know the first thing about how humans work. Take this example of a "refute"; no one would put out a statement that exposes themselves in such a straightforward, matter-of-fact way. People just aren't like that. Even if someone were to go crazy, it wouldn't manifest like that. And before you say "Well I don't know, people have been doing a lot of weird stuff these days, so I can see it happening!", find me one real example that would be comparable. A public figure, openly and directly acknowledging their sexual deficiencies in a non-joking, official manner.

That's why I say critical thinking skills are shit these days. People never stop and think "Does this make sense?".

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Iiiii'm sorry. People aren't like what now? Cause unless you've been living under a small and particularly rocky mountain you would know that the modern Right says dumb and weird shit almost every day. Would a sensible and reasonable person say that? No. We are SO far from sensible and even further from reasonable. In fact at some point we may have even entered into Twilight Zone territory.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No. Stop. None of this "well just look at the state of things" vague crap. Find me. A real. Example. You won't be able to because they don't exist. People don't act that way, even the crazy fucking right. Unhinged attacks and baseless claims on others? Sure. On themselves? Doesn't happen.

It's like you seriously don't even consider what makes sense in reality, you just want to eat up whatever bs conforms to your biases. It's like if you saw a screenshot of a tweet reporting that someone you don't like made a statement saying something like "I'm a big old poop brain and I LOOOOVE sniffing fresh farts!" you wouldn't even question it. Use your head.

[–] AustNerevar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're being downvoted for point out that people need to fact check more often. I don't understand why.

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

He is being downvoted for the basis of his reasoning, not the conclusion that he’s derived from it.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

JD Vance definitely has couchfucker energy so I can see the confusion.